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Neil GordonUser is Offline

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05/04/2007 5:36 PM  

Has anyone ever used a restoration company that had the Esporta Wash System for restoring smoke and flood damaged contents?

It can restore 85% of the contents that are currently being thrown out.  Insurance adjusters have been quoted saying that it "saves the insurance industry thousands of dollars per loss.  It's incredible!"

What are your thoughts?

Wes DavisUser is Offline

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05/04/2007 9:39 PM  
Would never happen here in SE Florida. Anything touched by water or smoke is not salvageable.
Mike KunzeUser is Offline

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05/05/2007 12:54 AM  

I predict some response to that!

Ray HallUser is Offline
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05/05/2007 3:45 PM  

I will believe this sales pitch, when I see it with my own eye,s on 10 losses that I have worked

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05/06/2007 3:04 PM  

Some smoke damaged items can be restored if immediately placed in a contained ozone chamber and monitored correctly. This does not always work , however many items can be returned to the preloss condition. One immediate necessity is to fog the smoke damaged structure with a .04 micron fog which will penetrate all of the areas that normal smoke (.08 micron) cannot get to.

Second , it is imperative that the smoke damaged items are put into a controlled environment, a sealed ozone chamber for a specific time and closely monitored. All of this is costly but in most cases less that the ACV of the damaged items.

With respect to flood damaged items. This is totally dependent on the item. Paper goods can be immediately frozen and properly restored. Wood items can possibly be restored under controlled conditions by craftsmen whom are familiar with the required processes.

Soft goods, (sofa, chair, mattress, rugs) are very rarely restore able.

As Ray has stated, I would have to see it, to believe it otherwise.


"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein"
Wes DavisUser is Offline

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05/06/2007 4:10 PM  
My experience with smoke is everything will smell and look all nice and clean after whatever treatment you perform but the second some circumstance causes the humidity to raise (hard rain or a/c failure etc.) it will again smell like a forest fire. No treatment can 100% get the smoke particles from behind the baseboard, out of the electrical switch and sockets, out from the inner workings of the refrigerator let alone the nook and crannies of the attic and a/c system. I am sure the .04 fog does a good job but not 100%. When it comes to contents 'restored' is not returned to preloss condition. The only time 'restored' is appropriate is when it returns the item to better than preloss condition. For example reupholstering a couch that does not hold any particular value in the original upholstery. Hardwood furniture generally holds its value in its original finish. Refinished furniture is not preloss condition. There are exceptions when the insured will agree that the item of furniture has no particular value to its current finish and a refinish is acceptable. This of course is never the case with any antique item. There is no reason to even discuss particle board type furniture.
Neil GordonUser is Offline

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05/07/2007 10:25 AM  

Believe it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDhSKzQ9WHA

Restoration Companies that want to be on proffered vendors lists should be requested to utilize this system. 

Ray HallUser is Offline
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05/07/2007 11:10 AM  

If its so good, why does the contractor not do the work on this basis..."no cure, no pay" hmmm

Neil GordonUser is Offline

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05/07/2007 11:15 AM  
Thats exactly what they do. Insurance companies pay only 15-20% of the replacement cost of whatever is being cleaned. If it is not cleaned to pre-loss condition, there is no charge and the insurance company is no worse off than it was before.

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05/07/2007 2:25 PM  

Mr Grant

It is apparent that your comments in support of this system are rather self serving. Why don't you take out a banner ad or classifed like the rest of the companies that want to peddle their wares?

 

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