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Last Post 05/27/2012 9:51 AM by  Jud G.
Synthetic Stucco and Dryvit repairs
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questy
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04/30/2012 10:21 AM

    I was a lathe & plaster laborer in high school and college that served me well on stucco repairs in the past but this new stuff has me baffled. What is the proper repair technique for damaged dryvit raised trim on stucco and concrete homes. The dryvit is the raised styrofoam trim, mostly around door and window openings, covered with stucco with a contrasting color. In most cases the stucco and paint on concrete walls are fine but the styrofoam has been badly damaged.  Some areas I think could be patched and some areas have been penetrated so deep that replacement of the section of foam trim should be replaced.   Xactimate has a few entries for trim and quoins but what would the components used and other things to consider when repairing dryvit?

    Thanks for any help.

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    Leland
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    05/01/2012 10:57 AM
    those styrofoam items are not in Xactimate. You can contact the supplier and create a material cost line item with the pricing you determine. Then do a separate line item for the labor hours you estimate.

    If you want to be real detailed you can type an f9 note with the name of the supplier, phone number, contact person, brand name of the product line, part number, etc etc to show where you got your dollar amount. That shows your file examiner that you didn't just make it up. To avoid embarrassment or reworking of the estimate, you can let the stucco contractor (if there is one) know what you estimated before finalizing your numbers.

    Some things are just not in XM8.

    Here is the link to the Dryvit website link for finding a distributor:

    http://www.dryvit.com/locator.asp?country_id=1

    A good way to find a subcontractor that can correctly install the distributor's product is to simply ask the distributor for a couple of names.

    You can then email a photo to that sub and get their opinion on what it would cost to do the repair.

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    dcmarlin
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    05/03/2012 12:41 AM
    Next time you go into X-mate, check the synthetic stucco items. I think it is in there?
    Gimme a bottle of anything and a glazed donut ... to go! (DLR)
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    Leland
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    05/07/2012 10:22 PM
    Mr. Marlin, you are correct, I never noticed that line item before. STU TRIM.

    Now I am one XM8 code smarter than I was yesterday.
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    Jud G.
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    05/27/2012 9:51 AM

    With stucco, spot repairs can be made and then painted as the original poster remarked.  However, with dryvit or EIFS, each entire elevation must be "redashed" which is more than just a coat of paint.  (After you select STU, pull up the submenu and click F2 to search 'redash' in just the STU line items.)  I copied and pasted an excerpt of a recent report of mine below:

    "To elaborate on our repair recommendations, we are in agreement to replace the damaged panels.  However, the rest of the elevation that is currently unaffected will become a part of the repair due to the roof repairs.  The roof flashing installed horizontally on the upper slope is riveted in place on the standing seam roof appurtenance and is covered over with EIFS panels.  The flashing will not be able to be removed without affecting the EIFS.  If just the section covering the flashing is removed & replaced, this repair will still be slightly visible unless the entire panel is recoated or re-dashed.  Xactimate uses the term ‘re-dash’ and this basically means to apply just the EIFS coating which has color mixed within it.

    The fact that the EIFS repair would be slightly visible is one reason, but the EIFS surface is an elastomeric or silicone-based coating; regular latex paint will not adhere properly and peeling may result.  Furthermore, some coatings can substantially change the water vapor transmission characteristics of the EIFS and trap moisture inside.  Solvent-based coatings can dissolve the EPS insulation board and cause delamination of the outer layers of the EIFS.  Additional effects of painting EIFS that result are picture framing, streaking, and flattened textures."

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