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JimGary
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05/03/2008 12:59 PM

    Just wondering what you olde....I mean more experienced guys use to mark your roofs. I use welders chalk, its hard and lasts a while, and its not as messy as colored sidewalk chalk. But is is hard to see on a grey 3 tab or white roof. I was walking the roofs on a local school district with some "engineers", and they used a colored chalk but I couldnt get close enough to see what kind it was. I followed one guy who used electrical tape  in an arrow shape to point, but that is too much trouble. Thought I would see what is available.

     

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    Linda
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    05/03/2008 1:17 PM
    I would stick to the sidewalk chalk. A little rain or water hose and it's gone. The yellow grease chalks can create problems especially when you don't pay for the roof. Actually had to have a roof powerwashed for this very reason. The insured deemed it unsightly. So the company paid.

    Strangely, if you buy the whole roof, they seldom complain.
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    Ray Hall
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    05/03/2008 2:21 PM

    sidewalk chaulk. 1, inexpensive, does the job , can purchase at ever Walmart and washes off with the first rain. I have had some examiners state how good my photos were as they could all the rainbow colors.

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    05/03/2008 4:17 PM
    Posted By Linda Asberry on 05/03/2008 1:17 PM
    I would stick to the sidewalk chalk. 



    I tried the sidewalk chalk from Wal-mart. Seemed to be too soft, would wear out and needed a new piece on every roof.

     

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    okclarryd
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    05/03/2008 6:21 PM
    I, too, used welders chalk or soapstone but, on grey or white roofs, it does not show well at all.

    The issue I had with colored chalks was that it got all over me and my clothes.

    Then, one day, I met a "know-it-all" that really did know it all. Or, at least, most of it.

    Spray the sidewalk chalk with hair spray and the mess is gone.

    Variety of colors, do artwork in the off-season, no need to continuously wash your hands, no chalk on your nice dark blue corporate shirt, give a short piece to a little kid and make their day, .............. it just doesn't get any better than that.
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    Tim_Johnson
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    05/03/2008 7:46 PM
    Get the fat sticks of sidewalk chalk and stick the end you hold into a 35mm film cannister, if you can find one, fits perfect
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    05/03/2008 7:55 PM

    I wish I'd had these last 2 tips a few years ago when working a hail storm in a small town in Indian reservation country.  Had several claims for roof damage to the school district and the public housing authority, weather was pretty warm & the bugs bad.  Felt like there were some bad vibes going on as time went by.  Figured it out when I got back into the pickup & looked at my face in the rearview mirror.  Could have been Husker's Last Stand.

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    05/03/2008 8:54 PM
    I use the white Railroad Chalk that I purchase from Forestry Suppliers, Inc.
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    sbeau4014
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    05/04/2008 12:09 AM
    I use pieces of sheetrock. it's free (go to home depot or lowes and they will give you the pieces they use between the stacks of sheetrock), and zero mess. I take and score the pieces in roughly 2"x2" squares and break them off and throw a chunk in a zip lock bag for a storm. One piece is good for 3-4 roofs, depending on how bad they are and the marks will be history after the 1st rain. with the paper on both sides of it you basically get nothing on your hands, and the paper tears off as you make the marks on the roof due to the roughness of the shingles.
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    05/04/2008 1:26 AM

    I'm not sure which one is funnier...scrounging free scraps of drywall or having to pay to powerwash chalk off of a roof for a no-pay claim.  On the latter, if there were enough marks to make it an issue to the homeowner, it sounds like Linda was working a claim for that carrier famous for their 12 hit minimum requirement.    

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    05/04/2008 9:56 AM
    Posted By John Davis on 05/03/2008 8:54 PM
    I use the white Railroad Chalk that I purchase from Forestry Suppliers, Inc.

     

    This is a new one, I've never heard of railroad chalk. Found the link. Gonna have to try it. Thanks John

     

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    05/05/2008 9:10 AM
    when u spray it with hairspray does it dry not sticky? that sounds like a good idea. And sidewalk chalk may be the cheapest tool a property adjuster needs to buy and you cannot do a hail claim without it.
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    05/05/2008 7:24 PM
    Posted By Ray Hall on 05/03/2008 2:21 PM

    "sidewalk chaulk -- inexpensive, does the job , can purchase at every Walmart and washes off with the first rain. I have had some examiners state how good my photos were as they could see all the rainbow colors."



    In 2001, I bought the super gigunda size sidewalk chalk from Walmart with all the colors in creation (and a few God never thought of) and still have some of it left.  Now that I'm a staffer my wife can use it to create temporary artwork on the patio. 

    But, I have to ask myself, are we really spending a whole forum thread talking about chalk?

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    JimGary
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    05/05/2008 8:02 PM
    Posted By Steve Ebner on 05/05/2008 7:24 PM
    Posted By Ray Hall on 05/03/2008 2:21 PM

    But, I have to ask myself, are we really spending a whole forum thread talking about chalk?



    I'm sorry, I created a monster. But at least it has to do with adjusting.

     

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    okclarryd
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    05/05/2008 10:12 PM
    I guess you could "chalk this up" as a bad idea.

    But, I would rather not "mark it with chalk", and cut it with an ax. I prefer precision work, myself.
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    05/06/2008 12:42 AM

    Way to go, Larry...next thing you know some bean counter will read your post & we'll need to send a roof sample to ITEL!   So much for same day 1st & finals.  

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    05/06/2008 9:16 AM

    A funny sidenote to this subject.  A friend of mine had a new examiner and she said she could not "see" the chalk circles around the hail bruises on the roof.  This was a plain old tan 3-tab with white sidewalk chalk and everyone but the examiner could see the chalk circles and the hail hits.  He tried different colors and sent at least 5 different example with no success.  She let the cat out of the bag when she said she used to work at State Farm and was used to multi-colored marked off squares and thought they were "pretty".  My friend had all of this he could take and took a can of bright orange parking lot spray paint and marked the roof again.  The roof was visible from the space station, the examiner paid the claim and never sent in a reply and never sent my friend another assignment, for which he was greatful!

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    Ray Hall
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    05/06/2008 11:55 PM

    OK the chaulk of choice for old adjusters is Walmart rectangle multi-color sidewalk .In order of importance 1. Cheapest 2. Walmart in ever town over 10,000 3. square box(easy to store 4. easy to spray 6 sides with hair spray 5. Easy to see in digital photos 6. Two 35MM film can will act as a holder for the chaulk 7. Can get the film cans in the photo department at Walmart (one stop). 8 Lots of file examiners like the rainbow colors and may make a nice comment on your photos. 9. Pre school kids will love the stumps. 10 Save the stumps until you have a bag full and toss them to the loud mouth dog from the ridge and really let all the neighbors know what a grand carrier the house you are on has.

    I need some help on the next 10 reasons.

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    Jud G.
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    05/07/2008 1:22 PM

    Can't wait to try the hair spray technique. I used a roll of duct tape to make a holder for the chalk and a cap. I make it loose enough as I wrap it around the chalk so that I can keep using it as the chalk wears out. The cap fits firmly on the holder, though, to keep the dust from getting everywhere.

    Here's how: wrap the chalk with the sticky side up first, then wrap another layer on top of it to cover the adhesive. You may want to put cardboard or a peice of plastic in between the two layers to give it that lasting touch of quality.

    While leaving the the holder in place on the chalk, make the cap the same way.  This will enable a snug-fitting cap. 

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    05/07/2008 2:05 PM
    Where were you guys last year when my my expenses equalled 58% of gross income? Duct tape and chalk -- now those expenses I can afford.

    Good old Duct Tape! Is there anything it can't do if you get creative enough with it?
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