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Last Post 10/07/2010 11:34 AM by  Ray Hall
Pilot Catastrophes Evaluation Class??
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Omega87
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01/08/2010 3:58 PM

    To those who have attended this evaluation class. What is involved with this class and what is it excatly do they test you on??? Thanks!

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    Omega87
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    01/08/2010 4:18 PM
    Anyone???
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    dnjsdad
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    01/10/2010 3:48 AM

    You need to have a basic concept of math, scoping damages, and taking measurements.

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    Omega87
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    01/10/2010 10:48 PM
    Thanks, thats what i had heard. I am surprised that I haven't gotten anymore responses.
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    01/25/2010 12:24 PM
    I took the class last fall.
    You should have a VERY STRONG knowledge of adjuster math.
    You need to brush up on your long math (Without calculator) such as long multiplication and division.
    remember fractions and decimals as well. THEY WILL TEST YOU ON THIS and many people are caught like a deer in the headlights.
    You will need to know how to figure the area of a roof without using sketch... by hand... with or without a calculator.
    You will be tested on it.

    You need to know how to read a policy and make decisions based upon the policy... you will be tested on it.
    You need to know how to set up an appointment and how to go through your estimate with the insured... You will be tested on it.
    You need to be able to type and you need to pass a spelling test...
    You need to have a great attitude and be on time every day or Able Cerda (The instructor and a great guy) will eat you up.
    Knuckle heads get invited to leave... you know the type.

    The Pilot training is VERY thourough and I was VERY impressed with it to be honest.

    Upon completion you will be given a rating that identifies how much you know and someday you MIGHT get deployed with Pilot (Starting with Allstate) if you are still in the business when a biggie hits.

    Hope this helps... good luck
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    Ray Hall
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    01/25/2010 6:04 PM

    Thanks, best post I have read in years, Pilot is the best, more peks than any one else.

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    01/25/2010 8:36 PM
    I took the eval class in Mobile back in the fall myself. Only a couple of things to add to the previous post.

    The class I took was broken into two parts, basic adjuster stuff and Integraclaim/Allstate.

    The basic adjuster stuff was just that, basic adjuster stuff, to go along with what was talked about in the previous post, there was also a customer service test, which was super easy. The Allstate/IntegraClaim half of the class is geared for people that have never used it, like me. There's a final test where you have to do a complete claim using integra, and roll play with the instructor. For the life of me, I can't think of the instructor's names, but they were both good guys. If you get Able, he's a cool cat too. There was nightly homework too, practice claims to print out at the hotel.


    I can't think of anything else right now.

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    01/26/2010 9:49 PM

    Okay,,,,,,,,its obvious that Pilot requires a certain standard for their employees.  My question is.......how many of you that have attended these evaluation courses have been completely new to the biz and upon completion, did you ever get called?

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    01/27/2010 11:18 AM
    Posted By virgo39 on 26 Jan 2010 09:49 PM

    Okay,,,,,,,,its obvious that Pilot requires a certain standard for their employees.  My question is.......how many of you that have attended these evaluation courses have been completely new to the biz and upon completion, did you ever get called?

     

    I took the eval, recieved a top rating, was told I was a shoe in for deployment. That was '06. I have never had a call. Took the AmFam through Pilot, passed, never been called. Those that work for Pilot have nothing but good things to say, but like most the big guys, they have more names on their list than will ever be called.

    I know the voices aren't real, but sometimes they're right!
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    Ray Hall
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    01/27/2010 11:49 AM
    I am surprised Jim Gary was never called out by Pilot. But why should I they have several thousand good adjusters on their list. But why should I, I had a melt down in Chicago in 1999 on a SF roof storm, xmate, car trouble, sick wife back home, credit cards maxed out and turning in 6 per day was overwhelming me and I was past the 2 story roof thumping age. I don,t leave home at night any longer and still do insurance claims work for cheap.... but very good.
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    01/27/2010 1:35 PM
    Posted By virgo39 on 26 Jan 2010 09:49 PM

    Okay,,,,,,,,its obvious that Pilot requires a certain standard for their employees.  My question is.......how many of you that have attended these evaluation courses have been completely new to the biz and upon completion, did you ever get called?

    I was completely new in 2003 when I went through the evaluation, and was called to work Hurricane Isabel that fall. 

    Let me clarify a couple things...  The evaluation is exactly that - an evaluation.  Not everyone passes and is invited to continue with further training.  You can wash out by not being able to handle a ladder, or by demonstrating a lack of knowledge or common sense when estimating.

    If you go on to the initial Allstate training the only 'rating' you'll get is either 'deployable' or 'not deployable'.  After you work a storm or two for Allstate your performance will be evaluated and your rating will be adjusted to a letter rating or back to 'not deployable'.  To be regularly deployed you'll have to work your way up to the top rating by demonstrating excellent customer service and adjusting skills.
     

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    01/27/2010 3:19 PM
    Posted By ddreisbach on 27 Jan 2010 01:35 PM
    If you go on to the initial Allstate training the only 'rating' you'll get is either 'deployable' or 'not deployable'. 

    When I went through, we recieved one of  5 ratings, top 3 were deployable. To be honest I don't remember it was numeric or alpha. At this point it is mute, but thats what we were told.

     

    I know the voices aren't real, but sometimes they're right!
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    Omega87
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    01/27/2010 8:30 PM

    Wow  thanks for all the information you guys!! I appreciate it!!!

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    01/27/2010 8:33 PM
    Posted By Jim on 27 Jan 2010 03:19 PM
    Posted By ddreisbach on 27 Jan 2010 01:35 PM
    If you go on to the initial Allstate training the only 'rating' you'll get is either 'deployable' or 'not deployable'. 

    When I went through, we recieved one of  5 ratings, top 3 were deployable. To be honest I don't remember it was numeric or alpha. At this point it is mute, but thats what we were told.
    Thats what i heard too! You have A, B, C adjusters...and those are the adjusters that have a chance of being deployed.

     



     

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    02/01/2010 2:26 AM
    I went through their evaluation. During the first interview/evaluation, I was given a preliminary rating. At the completion of the 7 days I had my second interview/evaluation. I was told by Abel Cerda that the first interviewer had noted in my file "Pilot needs to hire this guy". He said that he had never seen her write that before. Anyway, I got the highest rating possible for a newbie. I have not heard from them yet.
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    02/01/2010 10:25 AM
    Ed Bailey, Apparently that is one of their standard responses. I went through the class last year, and I was told the exact same thing, and when talking to a couple of other adjusters that took the class, they were also told the exact same thing. Have also not heard from them.
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    Ray Hall
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    02/01/2010 10:54 AM
    I have always thought Pilot was the best vendor. I worked for them for 10 years. In 1997 I almost starved out as none of us were working. It all depends on bad weather, sometime not much going on. I will say this if you do not work on certain times of the year and its not the hurricane season, you will dry up.
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    02/01/2010 1:13 PM

    No bad weather, no work. Ray is right. That is one reason you have to stash cash away in the bank to survive the lean times. We are going through that lean time right now. Last year was not an exceptional one either. Many newbies went to work elsewhere and that probably was the best thing for them to do. Lets hope this year is better or the adjuster pool is going to dry up.

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    02/06/2010 4:57 PM
    Posted By Tom Toll on 01 Feb 2010 01:13 PM

    "No bad weather, no work. Ray is right. That is one reason you have to stash cash away in the bank to survive the lean times. We are going through that lean time right now. Last year was not an exceptional one either. Many newbies went to work elsewhere and that probably was the best thing for them to do. Lets hope this year is better or the adjuster pool is going to dry up."

     

    and that would be a bad thing?

     

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    09/12/2010 10:53 PM
    Did anyone fail the test and not get asked to stay?
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