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Last Post 01/08/2010 11:54 AM by  Ray Hall
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01/07/2010 9:28 AM

    Let me start out by saying I know this question has probably been asked before. However, I don't have the time to go back and read all the questions and answers to find the best answer to my question.

    I would like to know if it makes a difference whether a person has been trained at Vail or Crawford or ACI or USStaffing or whomever when trying to obtain a daily claims position with a carrier? I am attempting to get my foot in the door in a trainee position with a national carrier like Travelers or whomever. I have my adjuster license and a construction estimating and management background but will it help to have additional training from one of these providers?

    Your advise would be much appreciated. Thank you.

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    01/07/2010 10:22 AM

    Don't concern yourselves with a response to my question about training schools. I have read some of the posts and the answer is what I assumed. The carrier's typically want someone with a degree, which I don't have. It is unfortunate that real life experiences don't equate into tangible assets to companies. I will just continue to pursue an entry level position somewhere and hope someone will at least give me an interview. Thanks for the help people.

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    01/07/2010 12:47 PM

    Keep trying, but you will have to wait until a cat 4 or 5 hits the US coast line. Thousands of IA.s out of work. It all is WOW. Waiting on weather.

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    01/08/2010 9:14 AM
    Thanks Ray. I have been reading about the training schools out there. I understand that Vale is the best training that can be bought. What I would like the professionals (those that actually work in a hiring capacity for IAs or Carriers) to tell me is if I successfully complete the 3 week property adjuster program at Vale will this make me more qualified to be hired in a trainee capacity for any of the bid IAs or Carriers? I don't have a college degree, but I am seeking the best way to acually get my foot in the door as a trainee. I realize I have to start at the bottom and I am ready, willing and able to do that. Thank you all for the advise.

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    01/08/2010 11:01 AM

    You are correct Vale is the only school that I know that insurance companies send send their new staff adjusters.

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    01/08/2010 11:18 AM
    Whether you are trying to get on as an Independent or staff, Vale will help. The problem is our profession for the most part relies on mother nature. A staff adjuster or daily adjuster will handle far more than weather related claims, but in years where little weather activity occurs, the carriers wil cut back on staffing and stack it on the staff, and during this time they are being hit with resumes from IA's trying to find work. In active years, carrier and IA firms will hire on but they will want college grads and experience first. I know 3 folks in my small town area that went to Vale, one is now remodeling homes, one is selling cars, the other is just doing anything to survive. Point is Vale does not guarantee you a job. Companies are not standing around looking for Vale grads. If it comes down to you and another applicant, both basically equal except you have Vale, then my money is on you. But if they have a degree in journalism, you may still be looking. Not a pretty picture but fact is that unlike many fields, there is no shortage of adjusters. I should have went to college.

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    01/08/2010 11:54 AM

    I know a young man who did not know anything about auto's and started working on weekends part time learning how to estimate auto,s damage at a very busy collision center on commish. To make a long story shorter he is now the SERVICE manager for a large auto dealership in San Antonio, being promoted from Houston. I guess I could say the same thing about Kirk Ebrels and Walter Pilot who climbed a little higher on the ladder.

    Just talked to one of my mentees who finish 9 months in Atlanta for Renfro/State Farm. Talked to another who has worked 8 months for Pilot/ Allstate and waiting for the right one before going out again. Nothing new seems 10% get all the work they need and then you have the other 90%

    and the people who have never worked a catastrophe claim are not in this 90% bracket. But don,t give up if this is what you want to do, but it,s not really that good of a job. We all remember when we had that real guilty feeling when we went to the airport and picked up our wife and took her out to dinner and the afternoon of the super bowl that we could not watch, because we had too much work to do and so on and so forth. And what we remember most is the 3rd day we get back from the storm and the phone does not ring that day or for months.

     

     

     

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