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Last Post 09/02/2008 11:05 PM by  margar1
New with license no experience can I get work?
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dnjsdad
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08/30/2008 5:31 PM

    I would like to work, but all of the sights that I have looked at want 2 years experience please any suggestions would be helpful.  I have been licensed with a TX all lines license for a little over a year but have not worked any claims.  Please help I want to WORK!!!!

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    Ray Hall
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    08/30/2008 6:34 PM

    Jason and other new people this is what you have been waiting for since Katrina in 2005. Many new people got into cat. adjusting and are doing very well. Keep send your name and address to the vendors on this site and someone will take you on. This is the problem, they will take you on as a person who has a license, but never worked a claim on a "no cure no pay basis". Now remember the loss notice they send/give you isTHEIR property and not Yours. The have a right to pull it back at any time, including all the conversations records/notes, all the paper notes and photographs of the house and all measurements on paper or into an electronic system (estimating software).

    I will use this example of how hard it will be unless someone takes you by the hand and leads you for about one month. Just think that you paid $500 for an small aircraft pilots license and you have proof of the license. A great emergency created a need for thousands of people who could do the work as a crop duster. You show up with the license and say I have never flown a plane before, but I want to try.The owner of the plane and crop dusting vendor thinks you have a lot of grit and says I have physical damage insurance on this old air craft, and not taking that big a risk.

    Then tells you to fly over to the Teriot Rice Farm on the NE intersection of FM 362 & Texas 146 and spay that 1500 acres of rice and when the flag man on the ground tells me you did a Good Job I will pay you $500.00 when you get out of the plane. Thats "no cure no pay"

    Really no one who know how to do the job has an incentive to help you, it slows them down. I live in Houston, Texas and I will let you ride with me for 10 hours per day for $50.00 per hour .Thats about double what you paid for class room training and it's worth it.

    Its not hopeless, estimate your own house like it was damaged by a hurricane and send in the estimate, with your application. You do not need a resume , unless it is in adjusting property claims. Just remember "no cure no Pay" is out their just ask for 5 files and someone at the motel may help you ,IF they have time. Better still is ask the vender to let you do 5 for free and ask them to help you do them.I will be surprised if anyone will take you up on this unless two cat 4 hits in the same week on both coast.T

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    Tim_Johnson
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    08/30/2008 8:12 PM
    See, that's what I like about ole' Ray, always tells the truth and is just a "Ray" of sunshine!!
    Tim Johnson
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    stormcrow
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    08/30/2008 11:44 PM

    Yes new people with licenses will be able to get work. Whether they can do the work is another question,  Thats why people end up doing clean up.  Another type of victum of the storm will be policy holders stuck with an adjuster with no clue. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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    dnjsdad
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    08/31/2008 1:12 AM
    Ray, I would love to do a ride along, however plane + hotel + food + car + no pay + $50.00 per hour would mean no wife and kids left when I got home. Just kidding,
    Thank you for the reply,

    Jason
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    Ray Hall
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    09/02/2008 1:09 PM

    In 2006 I had three FREE boot camps at a Lake House in Liberty County. All were between 30 to 40 hours of extensive scoping and live estimating property claims. I had other instructors as well as myself. This was really a test to see what people with nothing but a license needed. I intended to start a for pay school, but decided a week's boot camp would help, but not be adeguate to survive on a storm.

    I was a Claims Mentor and posted on CADO that I would review any estimate sent to me in any format, hand, xmate, powerclaim, simsol, old DOS or what have you. I posted on CADO about one month ago that I would review all PowerClaim estimates (for free) or any other estimate if they were sent to me in the Power Claim format.I did this to learn also. I did not get one response. I have decided to leave the schools to the schools.I really think its a vendors responsibility to send trained people into the field and Pilot, Renfrow, Ebrels, Pacesetter, Worly seem to do this as they see the advantage and also the liability for not doing so.The boot camps had a combine total of 50 people. It was not worth my time and energy

    How many of you wanta bees have read your first book on platform construction that is FREE at google wagner-framing. Or principals of property insurance, at any liabrary or gone to Home Depot and look at all the materials or offered to carry a ladder for an experienced adjuster for no pay. Gone to a construction site to see a frame go up and then visit the house each day to understand when each trade was working on the project.

    This is sink or swim time folks. A lot of wanta bees will drown. IF you do not drown you will come out fine and then wait for 3 more years for the next big round of hurricanes. I am busy working now, but may bump into some of you at the Appleby's lot when I have a face off with the loudest mold adjuster present.

    This does remind me of tropical storm Allison story in .2002. We had a social on Saturday afternoon in Houston. This bunch had about 10 standing around . A new flood adjuster from Arkansas was telling about a house he heard about someplace down on Galveston Bay that was so eat up with mold that they(insurance company) had to bring in a barge, move the complete house onto the barge tow the barge out into the Gulf of Mexico and shove the house off the barge and let it sink to the bottom. Russ Doe and Leonard Parker were present... this story dispered that group.

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    dnjsdad
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    09/02/2008 1:31 PM

    Ray, thank you for the reply,  I have looked over claims with a friend who is experienced however he has started a new business and will not be deploying the plan was for me to ride along for a few days, funny how things change when work is at a minimum.  I have never drowned in my life and do not intend to this time.  I would love to find someone who could use a assistant for a week or so just so my hands on experience would grow.  Do you think it would be a wise decision to get on a plane and just show up?   Would someone pick me up because I am licensed and there on-site ready to work?  I know that this is not what a experienced adjuster would do, but I really want to add experienced to my resume so that I don't have to sweat it out when the next storm hits.  I can be a valuable commodity if given a chance.  Please let me know what you think about heading down with out claims or contracts to try and get the experience.

    Thanks,

    Jason

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    Ray Hall
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    09/02/2008 3:32 PM

    Well Jason its kinda like this I will work in Louisiana which is 100 miles east of my house. I am waiting on claims myself. We will not get a feel for the volume for several days. Send me a PM and I will try to let you ride along for a while, after I make my appointments. You will not fail with that grit. Go on google today download wagner-framing book and start reading. And call me tonight. my contact are on CADO

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    DWetzel
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    09/02/2008 7:56 PM
    I've been a licensed insurance producer for a number of years (more than 10) sold my agency and have moved into IA. I'm licensed, trained and experienced with a number of claims from a recent OK wind/hail event. By no means do I have all the tools in the belt, but I've got the Policy and the customer service down cold. The scoping and estimating has been where I focused most of my learning efforts. I'm on stand-by with a mid-western company, among others, but can't seem to get them off the dime so to speak. Is this due to the fact the vast amount of Gustav claims are not even in yet, and that Fay turned mostly to a flood event? Or should I be concerned about being young in the business?

    I apprecitate this site, and have spent alot of time lurking, reading and mostly keeping my mouth shut. I never learned anything new from talking!

    Thanks for the insight

    David
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    margar1
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    09/02/2008 11:05 PM

    Ray

    It was nice of you to help the young man out...kuddos

     

    Mark S Garland
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