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Ray Hall

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08/02/2008 12:26 AM
I still have an old DOS program that was like kinda like DDS that cost $300.00 that I purchased in 1989 during the summer floods in Houston and ran until I leased DDS in 94. I also have all the xmate codes printed out in about 250 sheets for zip code 77004 in Houston.Will the puter police come after me if I starting using both to estimate property losses as my word processor, with the old 9 pin printer.

rbryanhines
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08/02/2008 1:22 AM
I was cleaning out my storage building a few years back and found an old desk top, fired it up and the dos dds was on there and still worked . Try leaving xactimate down for awhile and see if it will start. You would have to give em your wife and kids for the back fees. Two things that always made me scratch my head in this business(well there has been a few more but whos counting): why has big red only really ever used one estimating program and why has the good hands folks just used one cat vendor. HMMMMMM

rickhans

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08/04/2008 3:56 AM
Ray, I am not familier with DDS. Is it EZ-Bid that you have? Sid Morrison developed it in Dos originally and I still have it, but I updated to the Windows version in 2004. To answer your question, normally once you have purchased software with a license it is yours forever to use unless it disables itself if an update or renewal fee is not paid. As to having old item codes, I don't see how there would be any reason a person could not use them since they are just numbers and names in the old software. You would just have to update the prices yourself as was required in EZ-Bid.

Tom Toll
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08/04/2008 1:40 PM
I used an old program during Hurricane Andrew called CRS, not sure who wrote it or owned it. It, of course was DOS based. It was a pain in the rear to use, but worked. I remember printing out estimates on al old fanfold printer. How times have changed. I just downloaded Simsol and am working on learning it. Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

Medulus
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08/04/2008 7:15 PM
Tom, Once you have worked with Simsol for awhile and know it, you will be amazed what you can do with a software that "listens" when you tell it to do something. Rick, DDS is the old version of Marshall Swift estimating software. When Marshall Swift and Boeckh's merged, DDS and Boeckh's were combined to become what we now know as Integraclaim. DDS was way ahead of its time. It had graphics where you clicked on a wall and options for a wall popped up, or clicked on a picture of a roof and options for a roof popped up. It took a longer than normal time to set up the claim in the system (which carried over to Integraclaim), but then was much faster than anything then on the market for doing the actual estimate. Crawford was using it as their preferred software circa 1998. I only had the opportunity to use it for two assignments in 1998 and worked mostly for GAB (who preferred Boeckh's from 1998 through at least 2001) from the end of 1998 through 2007. Integraclaim was not an improvement over either DDS or Boeckh's in my book. It took some of the most inefficient elements of both systems and combined them. The valuation software, however, of Integra is probably the most reliable since it is a product of Marshall Swift Boeckh's. Steve Ebner CPCU AIC AMIM "With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Martin Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962)

Tom Toll
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08/04/2008 7:31 PM
Unfortunately I was unable to download and open Simsol. I followed the instructions, but it would not work. I have requested the CD. Thank all of you for your replies. I am anxious to get on to training with this system. I have seen what it does and have heard from many of you that it is a superior product. Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.

Tim_Johnson
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08/04/2008 9:34 PM
Tom, Don't download it and learn it. You will wonder why you have not used it all along. We were forced by some carriers to use X. One of my 1099 adjusters still uses Simsol and uses the office copy of X when he has to. I have to say X25 is better than X24 but neither one of them hold a light to Simsol. Tim Johnson

Ray Hall

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08/04/2008 10:03 PM
Tim your evaluation of xmate 25 and Simsol goes a long way as you are in the most competitive business in the world. A local IA working property and casualty claims in a tweerer area that is very competitive. Way to go. I turned down a standby job for Edouard in Houston, because xmate is required. Working storm claims is stressful enought without wrestling with sketch or not to sketch, with as many attachments and photos as I send.

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