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Last Post 11/26/2006 9:27 AM by  Gale Hawkins
Lithium Ion Batteries
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Tom Toll
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11/20/2006 5:55 PM







    Due to concerns I have had involving Lithium Ion batteries, I have done some research on the issue. As you know, Dell has recalled some batteries and Sony has recalled some 9 million batteries, due to contamination of battery cells while being manufactured. This is a serious problem, as Lithium is a metal product and can burn at 1000 degrees farenheit. Thats hot. If you ever see your laptop smoking, call the fire department immediately and tell them that your lithium battery has caught fire, as there are only several chemicals that will help control the fire. Lithium is a near metal to magnesium. Magnesium will burn under water until all the magnesium has burned away. Volkswagen had a magnesium in their blocks in the VW bugs for a number of years and when they caught fire, they would burn and burn. That has been eliminated now. This should be a serious concern to all of us that use laptops almost every day.

    You can go to PCPitstop.com and get additional information on this event. They have researched it well and have a video you can watch as to he progression of the Lithium Iom burn. Below was copied and pasted from PC Pitstop.

    Li-Ion Technology is unstable

    By its very nature, Li-Ion technology always has some probability of providing unstable and uncontrollable results. Due to this concern, most portables are designed with two protection circuits, one in the battery and the other in the notebook. In Dell's case, Sony's manufacturing problems increased the probability that the battery would explode, and at least one of the protection circuits would have had to have failed.

    The point is that all portables with Li-Ion batteries have some chance of exploding. The question is how well does the computer respond to the danger. Li-Ion batteries are used today in almost all portables, not just in Dell and Apple, and therefore the risks are industry wide. I fully expect other portable manufacturers such as HP, IBM and Gateway to announce similar recall programs.

    Buy Batteries from the Manufacturer

    Aside from the instability issues, Li-Ion has another large drawback. Li-Ion batteries have a limited shelf life which most industry vets estimate to be around 2 years. That is, if you purchase a computer that has been sitting on the retail shelf for a year, your battery will only last a year once it is in your hands. The ramification is that there is now a healthy aftermarket for Li-Ion batteries.

    Stay away from these batteries and buy from the manufacturer. Although you might save a few bucks, you are voiding your warranty and increasing the risk your battery explodes. In some cases, I have heard that certain third party batteries have omitted the protection circuit to save cost.

    Only Use the Battery When on Battery Power

    Did you know that when plugged into the wall, you can remove the battery entirely from your portable? The only benefit to having the battery in the PC with AC power, is in the event of a power shortage, your portable has an alternate energy source. If you pull the battery out of your notebook, you eliminate the probability of the battery exploding, and your notebook is a little lighter too.

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    11/22/2006 3:48 PM
    Speaking of which, my fully charged lithium ion battery will last 48 - 52 minutes when fully charged. I called Toshiba today and they told me my warranty had expired this past Sunday, 11.18.2006 and there was nothing they could do for me. This is just an FYI for those that may be considering a Toshiba. The computer is great, the battery sucks as does the customer service.
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    11/23/2006 4:10 AM

    I also have a Toshiba with a lithium ion battery.  Haven't had any problems with mine, and being on the road the next couple days....don't expect I'll miss out on anything new, including the "inspirational" posts that show up on Fridays, let alone Thanksgiving Day.  Will have to see though if I have enough power reserve.

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    11/26/2006 9:27 AM

    Thanks Tom for starting this thread. It made me realize how little I knew about the Lithium-ion battery and how incorrectly I had assumed their characteristics were like past generations of rechargeable batteries. It makes Tim's experience more understandable. A battery with a computer in it that can shut it down if you do not recalibrate the fuel gauge every thirty cycles was news to me. This article is complete with graphs to help one understand this technology in a practical way due to the author’s experience in the industry. Below is just the summary of the article.

     

     http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm

    Simple Guidelines

    • Avoid frequent full discharges because this puts additional strain on the battery. Several partial discharges with frequent recharges are better for lithium-ion than one deep one. Recharging a partially charged lithium-ion does not cause harm because there is no memory. (In this respect, lithium-ion differs from nickel-based batteries.) Short battery life in a laptop is mainly cause by heat rather than charge / discharge patterns.
    • Batteries with fuel gauge (laptops) should be calibrated by applying a deliberate full discharge once every 30 charges. Running the pack down in the equipment does this. If ignored, the fuel gauge will become increasingly less accurate and in some cases cut off the device prematurely.
    • Keep the lithium-ion battery cool. Avoid a hot car. For prolonged storage, keep the battery at a 40% charge level.
    • Consider removing the battery from a laptop when running on fixed power. (Some laptop manufacturers are concerned about dust and moisture accumulating inside the battery casing.)
    • Avoid purchasing spare lithium-ion batteries for later use. Observe manufacturing dates. Do not buy old stock, even if sold at clearance prices.
    • If you have a spare lithium-ion battery, use one to the fullest and keep the other cool by placing it in the refrigerator. Do not freeze the battery. For best results, store the battery at 40% state-of-charge.

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    About the Author
    Isidor Buchmann is the founder and CEO of Cadex Electronics Inc., in Vancouver BC. Mr. Buchmann has a background in radio communications and has studied the behavior of rechargeable batteries in practical, everyday applications for two decades. Award winning author of many articles and books on batteries, Mr. Buchmann has delivered technical papers around the world.
    Cadex Electronics is a manufacturer of advanced battery chargers, battery analyzers and PC software. For product information please visit http://www.cadex.com/">www.cadex.com.

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