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Last Post 03/10/2011 1:20 PM by  Goldust
Be careful who you work claims for...
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SteveZ
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09/30/2007 8:35 PM

    Verified by the carrier that the claims I worked for C&S Claim Service fee bills were paid to C&S (no revisions needed), and Verified by the insureds that they were paid on their claims, I still have not been paid my 65% fee bills.  Richard Kramer talked a lot about Integrity and Doing the Right Thing by paying adjusters quickly, but has YET to pay me or even return a phone call to me.

     

    Pretty aweful way to treat people. 

     

    God is watching you, Mr. Kramer or is it Cramer???

    katadj
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    09/30/2007 9:04 PM
    Perhaps you should have read the warnings posted several times, both on the vendor page and on the comment page.

    I'm still out a significant amount of money for claims done in 2007, in NE PA.

    And its Cramer, as in Richard Cramer and Bud Starr, A/K/A C&S Claims.

    Beware the tides of every month with these characters...................................................
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    malvi
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    10/03/2007 10:55 AM

    Check the archives for my post titled “IF THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO YOU".  I wrote an update a few days back. As I have said time and again UNTIL ADJUSTERS COME TOGETHER AND TAKE ACTION UNSCRUPULOUS VENDORS WILL CONTINUE TO THRIVE. What is ironic is that there are many posts on the site complaining about lack of payment, but I have not had a single reply to my post regarding the letter to the Congress sub-committee. Anyone can moan but few have the courage to fight back.

    Malvi Lennon

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    10/04/2007 10:38 AM

    I think we as adjusters should form a co-op with an attorney on retainer for handling these situations. The more adjusters that get involved the less money it would cost each individual. I would look forward to discussing this further, if anyone was interested. I can see this becoming a very powerful tool in our arsenal for collecting deliquent funds. Please post your ideas.

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    katadj
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    10/10/2007 8:16 PM
    Joe,

    The concept is great, the problem is that most all of the adjusters are naught but sheep ,that need to be led to the fodder, rather than seek out and find the truth.

    When, and only when, the masses decide to collaborate and give credence to this profession will things change.

    Until then, the call to arms is "Blaaaaah"
    "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein"
    Spudder
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    12/29/2007 7:53 AM

    I am working a desk claim verifying the adjusters estimate, He uses Xactimate and defines the current price list, however when I pull up the price list from Xactimate it is different that the one the adjuster uses, same number just different prices, I have seen where an adjuster puts his own prices in the price list and claims it is Xactimate price list, I do not think that this is ethical, has the profession lowered its standards, this is a problem which I will forward to the licensing board after calling the claims adjuster. Is this a common practice among insurers to change price list numbers? 

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    12/29/2007 12:43 PM
    Posted By Spudder on 12/29/2007 7:53 AM

    Is this a common practice among insurers to change price list numbers? 

    This is kind of off-topic, and the same question was posted on 2 other threads, here and here. Please continue the conversation on those threads, not this one.

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    05/22/2008 1:21 PM

    North American Adjusters: I worked for this company for over a year and boy did I get shafted. I busted my butt doing daily claims for these guys and was out a fortune in gas expenses and hotel bills. They drag their feet when it came to paying me and when confronted they put the blame elsewhere. They still owe me over a grand from claims completed in January. I just want to warn my fellow adjusters before taking employment with this company. They want to get rich at your expense.

    Beware!

    eglover
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    11/16/2010 4:11 PM

    Malvi, I'm in...I am so sick of the vendor's nickle and diming, they already get a huge chunk for doing nothing, now it's an extra $5 dollars here and $5 dollars there. I've really had enough...where is the list of fed up adjusters. We must realize that even though the Vendors are the Heart, we are the BLOOD that makes that shyt BEAT!!

    Count me IN!!!

    Ray Hall
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    11/16/2010 5:46 PM

    All you adjusters who come to TX to work please work for a vendor whose home office is not in TX. This will allow some of these roof claims to go to federal court court where they belong. I have been named in my 2nd TWIA lawsuit and I can,t find my TX. vendor to defend me. I have not ask TWIA, but none of these cases ever go to trial They are settled just like the man said"several hundred thousands more" Gutless insurance carriers will never try a first party case. Tx is now whiplash and mold blackmail cases refined and prefected on wind lift BS with the help of a thousand giggles from a thousand roofers.

    eglover
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    11/16/2010 5:53 PM

    Why isn't there a UNION for the Independent Adjusters?? So much will change.

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    11/16/2010 6:42 PM
    Posted By enicole on 16 Nov 2010 05:53 PM

    Why isn't there a UNION for the Independent Adjusters?? So much will change.

     

    Because we are "INDEPENDENT" adjsusters. The word independent is pretty much the opposite of union.

     

    JWG

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    11/17/2010 8:12 AM
    Not only because we are "independent", as Jim said, but also because when you come down to it we are all business competitors. I've heard of several groups attempting to unionize but I've never heard of one getting past the beer and griping stage. Actually, I'm more inclined to support the idea of Co-Op as stated earlier. I think that concept would have the better chance of working.
    Steve McGraw Professional Adjuster
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    11/18/2010 11:44 AM

    I know what "WE" are; however, it doesn't mean that we cannot stand together and form some sort of "UNIONized revolt". If not, the vendors can pretty much hit us with whatever percentage they want. It's already happening. I like this IA thing, but I'm getting frustrated to the point of wanting to convert to a PA.

    eglover
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    11/18/2010 11:47 AM

    I am on board, if we can ever get past the beer and griping stage Steve.

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    11/18/2010 6:49 PM
    I like this IA thing, but I'm getting frustrated to the point of wanting to convert to a PA

    In the words of Obi Wan: "Trust your feelings, Luke; don't be seduced by the Dark Side"
    Steve McGraw Professional Adjuster
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    11/18/2010 7:14 PM
    Posted By enicole on 18 Nov 2010 11:44 AM

    ...... form some sort of "UNIONized revolt". .....

     

    What sort of revolt? Not work.... Work slow.... Decline deployment.  At any given point, unless there is an event of the level of Katrina, over half the adjusters out there are not working anyway. And there are many more adjuster wannabes waiting for an opportunity to prove their stuff. Read the archives, many posts from the wannabes saying they will work for nothing just to learn the business. Leave an open slot on a storm, and it will be filled before the hour is done, even at half the current price. There are associations for independent adjusters, little more than newsletter lists. All were formed with high ideals and great expectations, but have any actually had an impact other than the dues taken our pocketbooks?  Think about it.

     

    JWG

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    eglover
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    11/18/2010 7:45 PM

    I appreciate you taking the time to comment Jim.

    stormeo88
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    03/08/2011 9:53 PM

    I dont have nearly the experience as most of the pro's here but for what's its worth I just got off the phone with US Adjusting Services in Texas  and am all signed up for an assesment. <= insert starry eyed unwitting enthusiasm :)

    Durring my conference call they said its getting super hard to find adjuster and they are in desparate need to meet demand and add to their roster.

    Im super new to this but it sounds like there's a lack of quality companies to work for. I got the impression they were pretty good about getting back to me on emails, questions and the entire process.

    billlyh
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    03/08/2011 11:49 PM

    Hello stormeo88,

      I have had my adjusters license for about three months now, and haven't worked yet. I live in north-east Texas, and your post interests me. I'd like to know more about your experiences with the Us Adjusting Services in Texas. I am preparing for deployment, and hope I get to go soon. I also read another post mentioning that many adjusters are out of work, and will remain out of work without another Katrina. This concerns me, as well as reading about companies refusing to pay the adjusters. I hope I have made a good decision in pursuing this career. Please let us know how it goes with the assesment.  Looking forward to your future comments.

    billy heddin

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