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Last Post 06/24/2007 9:54 PM by  benj
Xactimate FYI
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03/03/2007 7:24 PM
    When attempting to install on my new computer, I found that Xactimate 24 is not compatible with Windows Vista.  Checked Xactimate website and they do not have a fix at the moment.  Sure hope they come up with one before the storm season gets into full swing.  Don't retire those old computers just yet!
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    03/06/2007 12:43 AM

    Eugene, the below kind of got buried on the Vista thread but it does look like help is on the way before hurricane season.

    Posted By David Dreisbach on 02/13/2007 2:58 PM

    After several years of hard use I decided to replace my laptop with a new, high-powered model.  I purposely waited until Vista was released and was included on the computer.  BIG MISTAKE!!

    Xactimate 24 and Integriclaim 8 are not supported and will not install / run on Vista.  Xactimate 25 will be Vista-compatible and is planned for mid-2007.  MS/B has not committed to a date yet for a Vista product.  They told me that they were not given access to Vista until quite recently.  Also, they are concerned about rushing a product to market only to have problems with the inevitable Vista v2.0.

    I also bought DeLorme Street Atlas 2007.  It would not install.  The DeLorme folks were very nice and sent new disks (no charge) that installed and ran just fine.

    In summary, I was an idiot!  I should have known better!  I now have a really nice computer that I can't use for adjusting unless I can install Windows XP and dual boot the thing.

    David Dreisbach

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    03/06/2007 3:29 PM

    curious , now pardon my lack of knowledge off the bat but does Vista not have a back compatibility option such as XP did in order to accomodate certain older programs and such ? i know it would seem as a waste in some ways but i 've run across that issue a few times and thank god someone had enough forthought to give you the ability to run a program in 98 style format w/ in the Windows XP ....    

     

    just  curious

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    03/07/2007 7:21 AM
    I think the best idea is to order the new computer with XP pro and wait until Vista is up annd running for a year or two....
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    03/07/2007 9:19 AM
    Joe, the biggest problem with that is Microsoft has pushed Vista on the new computer manufacturers and it is near impossible to find a new laptop or desk top with XP Pro on it. I just bought one on U-Bid, an HP, which was re-furbished with XP Pro on it.. Dell seems to be the only one that offers their products with XP Home or Pro. That, in my opinion, is a mistake by the manufacturers, in that a lot of businesses have networked XP systems and they do not want to go to the expense of changing over to Vista. This is another instance of Microsoft's ability to control the market. I don't see that much advantage to 'vista, in fact, there are already problems associated with its release.
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    03/07/2007 10:11 AM

    I agree with Joe, if possible stay with XP and wait on Vista for a while.  Even though our software runs on Vista, none of my programmers or tech supports see what's so great about it.

    I also agree with Tom, MS is throwing its wait around and there is not much the manufacturers can do in such a monopoly-controled industry.  Gale and I have to fight a monoply vendor in our market every day.  It's not fun but when you win one away from the boys in Utah it makes your day!

    Hope you all have a good one...

     

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    03/08/2007 5:37 PM
    I talked to Dell last night about purchasing a laptop and having XP instead of Vista installed. I got this song and dance routine about how that could only be done on one model which of course is one of their most expensive at $2,395. and that if before you start adding on a few bells and whistles. Mind you, the "advantage" of Dell is that you can build one from the ground up, so why can't XP be installed on any model?....hmmmmmm.

    Dell does offer many refurbished desk tops and laptops which do have XP as well as many other software programs already added on, quite reasonable. You will find some with XP but many more with Vista already installed..wonder why?
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    03/10/2007 11:54 AM

    The comparison between Microsoft and Xactimate does have some apparent parallels at first glance yet you can see some major differences if you take a detailed look.

     

    Talking specifically about Vista it is a good thing with the correct computer and software because of underlying changes that helps enable corporations to improve performance by tapping into new hardware and security options coming on the market today. The pretty interface is not the steak but the sizzle.

     

    It is a pain for adjusters that wish to use software that did not evolve in a timely manner but that is understandable if you look at the facts. The founder of Xactimate died in mid 2005 and it was sold in mid 2006. That can rock any company even with a clear cut succession plan and time to plan for the exit of the founder. To date there is no case of an adjusting software package that I am aware of having successfully survived its founder long term but there can always be a first. The story of DDS to MSB and continuing is well known and well worn on CADO.

     

    Microsoft has a horizontal market while Xactimate has a narrow vertical market. Microsoft does not require Xactimate but Xactimate requires Microsoft to close a sale. Microsoft has driven down the cost for goods and services and has been one of the main enablers of the financial success in the world economy and the proof of that is in the fact that Bill Gates has just been listed now for the 13th year in a row as the wealthiest man in the world. You have to add a lot of financial value to a lot of people for that to happen.

     

    It is true both Microsoft and Xactimate are the largest in their respective industries but Xactimate nor any other estimating software vendor does not have users lining up to buy a new release at midnight just to be one of the first to own the newest release.  : )  People will pay good money to Microsoft just to check email and travel the world wide web while adjusters making $100K a year may complain about paying for Xactimate or other estimating software.

     

    If Bill Gates had failed then today instead of top of the line estimating software going for $800 annually the same software would be $5000 if there were 10 or 15 different operating systems out there to develop around and support. Just look how with only one operating system and years of warning not every software vendor was ready for Vista’s long touted arrival. Bill Gates has done more to reduce the cost of handling claims than any man dead or alive. I bet some that are still adjusting five years from now may ask how did we work before Vista came along? : )

     

    DDS desired to be the next Xactimate and while noble it called for extensive resources. Had they built their model based on Microsoft instead of Xactimate things could have been different perhaps. Doing a frontal assault on an enemy requires more weight and staying power so if you weight 80 pounds and go up against one weighting 800 pounds then a five year old can predict the expected outcome in most cases.

     

    Sometimes we forget that David took out Goliath without a physical fight or a plan to ever fight Goliath. Goliath confused size with strength. Goliath confused size with smarts. David understood he only had to disable Goliath for a few minutes and that Goliath would provide the instrument of his own death and that was Goliath’s own sword. David only needed the time to run to Goliath after he was knocked out and cut off his head with Goliath’s sword. He had no armor to slow him down, not even sword to carry. What blows my mind is why Goliath’s fellow soldiers were scared of David because had they just rushed him David would not have lasted three minutes.

     

    Deciding to compete against Bill Gates can leave one bloody. Deciding to compete against Xactimate can leave on bloody. The first in any category has many advantages in the market place. I think the turning point for Hawkins Research, Inc. was when we woke up in 2000 and decided to not compete with Xactimate but to instead become the first in a new subcategory of property estimating software by establishing an Open Standard for property claims handling to level the playing field for all that wanted to compete.

     

    Well my point is in my view the only real competitor anyone has lies in the area between his two ears. If we have to do battle in the expected way of doing battle we fail when going up against one ten times our size. Companies like nations fail internally before they fall externally. In time one can expect that Microsoft and Wal-Mart will go the way of Ford. Their three founders have provided the pattern that I have used to build our company. : )

     

    In the past it was hard for a corporation to last 100 years and today 20 years seem like a long time for a corporation to stay viable. In doing some research for this post I came across the following info that may be of interest to those who are trying to earn their own living.

     

    http://www.accenture.com/Countries/...ration.htm 

      

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    03/22/2007 12:44 PM
    I met with Xactimate 2 weeks ago in Orem. They actually do have a fix for 24 running on Vista. The problem is not so much with the operating system but with the SQL engine. I suspect they will offer the fix around the time of 25's official release.
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    03/22/2007 8:38 PM
    The word at PLRB this week was they do have a patch now for 24 to run on Vista.
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    05/24/2007 9:46 AM

    Please follow this link for information on the work around that has now been posted on the Xactware site.

    http://www.catadjuster.org/Forums/t...fault.aspx

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    05/25/2007 2:56 PM
    Do we all remember the fiasco that was Windows 98. Microsoft tried to convince everyone that this update to Windows 95 was the niftiest thing to come down the pike. I had a computer with 98 then one with Windows ME. I used both but I rarely came across program that required these versions of Windows. Both went quickly by the wayside. Vista needs a bit of a track record before I can fully trust it. The next year should be the test. I will stick with XP Pro for the time being.
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    06/09/2007 6:26 PM
     
    OREM, Utah—May 21, 2007—Xactware will be releasing Xactimate 24.13 along with the new release of Xactimate 25 in June 2007.

    Xactimate 24.13 will include optional functionality for customers who want to use dual versions (24.13 and 25) of Xactimate on a single computer. In addition, customers can use the same XactNet address and product key code for both versions.
     
    This should be good news for the CAT adjusters that have to switch between vendors where one is on version 24 and another on version 25 especially if the story that Allstate is now moving to Xactimate is factual.
     
    This week at an IA convention one vendor stated that a firm in the north east that does some work for Allstate as been to told to start using Xactimate when running Allstate assigned property claims. On the old CADO forum it was posted that Allstate was moving to Xactimate in 2007 or 2008. Allstate did review their options last year and made a decision this year but I do not know the winning vendor. If they did not stay with MSB then the logic that they would have moved to Xactimate would support the old CADO tread that Allstate was moving to Xactimate.
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    06/10/2007 10:49 AM

    Being able to run both 24 & 25 could be handy but it doesn't come free.  You have to pay an additional $50 per month over the normal subscription price.

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    06/10/2007 4:46 PM
    Kim what is $2000 a year to a CAT adjuster for estimating software? Just a few fat files and the bill is paid for the year. :) When you get past the price it is a thoughtful option to offer but it is true you can not use both at the same time. By enabling both versions to hit XactCentral at the same address should increase their income from the Xactnet associated fees from the carriers using analytics and cut their need for technical support staff.
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    06/12/2007 8:06 AM

    Not knowing Xactimate, can someone tell me the difference between ver. 24 and ver. 25?  Is it a significant change or suttle change?

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    06/24/2007 9:54 PM
    I install xactimate all the time on vista... all you have to do is after you get the program call xactware and they will walk you through it to fix the problem.....its that easy
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