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Last Post 10/20/2006 10:10 PM by  khromas
Farm Buildings Grain bins
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jlongawa
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10/17/2006 2:19 AM

    Anyone know anything about pricing on grain bin roofs.  I have I ton of claims that have damaged roofs on these bins and was told be an installer that they have to dismantle the entire bin just to do the roof because it is put together top first and jacked up as they go.  Help

     

     

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    HuskerCat
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    10/17/2006 3:25 AM
    I think someone is pulling your leg.  But regardless, check the coverage carefully with the carrier.  Many times these are "scheduled" structures, and perhaps subject to ACV coverage.  Get a repair cost, depreciate it & let the carrier handle the final negotiation if you can't.  I don't know if you are working hail damage, or if the wind blew the tops off...but if it's only hail damage on the galvanized steel roofs, replacement will never happen.  Just this old farm boy's opinion. 
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    Wes
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    10/17/2006 1:49 PM
    I watched a television show on building large silo's and it was just as Josh described. The silo's are formed out of individual small rings. The rings are then lifted and a new ring is placed underneath until the desired height is reached.
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    khromas
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    10/17/2006 5:34 PM
    I happen to agree with Mike's approach but here is another repair option should that actually take place: bucket and crane.

    Pretty stupid and awful audacious of these "roofers" or "silo constructors" or whatever they want to call themselves to suggest that you have to dismantle the entire silo to repair the roof.
    My laughing in the guys face over that idea would have probably stopped that real quick.
    (You put the plumbing in first on a slab-on-grade house. Do you tear the house down to repair?)

    RCV minus depreciation equals about $1.94 on one of these things.



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    Gale Hawkins
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    10/17/2006 6:07 PM

    After making a few phone calls I did learn you can replace the roof of a typical round farm grain bin without lowering it back to the ground. Right now they are very busy putting up new ones so finding someone to give you a quote may not be easy. According to what I was able to learn from one large supplier is you will want to unbolt and replace one roof panel at the time. You will need someone on both the outside and inside. He said if the bin is about full it makes it easier for the one working inside. The rings carry the pressure and the roof helps keep it round in shape. Clearly if some grain has been removed and level has not dropped from the top you would not want to be walking on the top because it could cave in and kill you.

     

    Later today another company called and he said about the same thing. He said it will be very costly from the labor aspect if the bin is not filled to the eve. To completely replace a roof there are four main supports that must be held in place and bolted together at the top center and then after that it is simpler. This is one reason the roof is initially constructed on the base and then jacked up by adding one ring at a time. He stated that one reason for failure is the lack of a safety ring that attaches to the roof panels. This ring will also help keep the roof from bucking due to high wind. The cost one dealer told me the safety ring was only an extra $300-$400 per grain bin and can help prevent roof failure due to wind.

     

    The cost for roof repairs seem to be based on if the bin is filled or not with being filled to the eve being less costly. Scaffolding up inside of a grain bin is very expensive and the dealers do not like doing it that way based on what I learned. No dealer suggested taking down a grain bin to replace/repair the roof.

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    khromas
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    10/17/2006 6:44 PM
    Just curious but WHAT is this topic doing in in the "Software" category?
    Just wondering since another thread that was "off-topic" was locked PDQ.

    Hey Gale!
    Be sure and send Mike a bill for making those calls for him. He at least owes a round of drinks some day.
    Guess the software business is as slow as the adjusting business these days.
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    Gale Hawkins
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    10/17/2006 7:02 PM
    Kevin, it was a software database pricing question.
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    Gale Hawkins
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    10/18/2006 12:43 AM

    Tonight while I was trying to find some visuals for grain bin construction that would could be an aid in adjusting grain bins I ran upon this cute photo with an article about using new grain bins as new homes. Someone must be insuring these. If anyone has photos of the grain bin hurricane home in Horseshoe Beach, FL that is on poles please share them with us. They would be easy to diagram being a circle.

      

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0817/...-lihc.html

    Inhabitable grain bins have their advantages

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    cantonking
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    10/20/2006 6:54 PM

     

    Kevin,

    Welcome back. That last post was the most interesting reading I have read here since they switched over. Where has every one gone to.

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    10/20/2006 7:43 PM

    Larry,

    I disagree.  I'm not going to allow post of that nature on this site.  I found the post to contain serveral insults towards other memebrs of this site.  There are other forums out there now so visitors have a choice. 

    Roy

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    khromas
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    10/20/2006 10:10 PM
    Roy,

    I, as well as many others, am curious as to just WHAT it was that I said that you considered insulting. ??

    EVERYTHING that I said in the post that you censored by deletion was 100% accurate and on point to the discussion taking place. I would recapitulate those items by way of bullet-points but those who have been around CADO long enough already know the factual truths involved regarding Mr. Hawkins, his adjusting qualifications and PowerClaim. Those can hardly be construed as personal attacks as TRUTH as long been considered the ultimate defense.

    Has TRUTH become a secondary consideration on CADO in favor of political correctness?

    I remain,
    Kevin Hromas
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