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Ride Along Mentor
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pestguy22
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07/18/2011 6:59 PM

    I am  new to the adjusting industry and I am looking for a Mentor who will let me do some Ride Alongs. I have been in the Home Inspection business for 10 years and I am not afraid to get on roofs. I have had a few new home inspectors ride along with me so I know how much it helps. I need some field experience. Let me know if you are willing to help. Thanks. 

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    07/21/2011 2:32 PM
    I am willing to help, contact me and we will discuss rates for ride alongs.

    You provide the claims, vehicle and tools and I will ride along for a fee.
    "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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    pestguy22
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    07/21/2011 4:40 PM

    Why do you even respond if you do not want to help. I dont think I would want to learn what you are teaching anyway. I am looking to learn something useful.

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    Ray Hall
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    07/22/2011 1:21 PM

     Chucks of of July 21st is a very fair offer. Its your business that you are getting paid to do and if you need help, you should pay for it. Many good adjusters will work for a reasonable hourly rate if they are not on a storm.

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    07/22/2011 2:43 PM
    What would be a "fair wage" for entry into what most of these people think is a very lucrative profession. I am told that there are roofing sales jobs that pay 200,000 USD per annum, what is a "fair wage" for teaching a class that guarantees that kind of money. I am also told that law school costs about 50.000 USD per annum and most rookie lawyers can expect salary less then 50,000 USD. Most MD's come out of school after at least 6 years owing around 250,000 USD and most don't make 300,000 USD per annum.

    For 125 USD per hour I will teach you and guarantee that you will learn something.
    "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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    pestguy22
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    07/22/2011 4:49 PM
    Chuck, If you dont want to help then do not respond. I am pretty sure that a ride along with you would be a negative experience. You are probably a great guy but the posts I have seen by you to other new adjusters are very negative. You do remember that you were a beginner once and even though you probably wont admit it, someone helped you at some point.
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    CatAdjusterX
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    07/22/2011 7:54 PM
    Posted By ChuckDeaton on 22 Jul 2011 02:43 PM
    What would be a "fair wage" for entry into what most of these people think is a very lucrative profession. I am told that there are roofing sales jobs that pay 200,000 USD per annum, what is a "fair wage" for teaching a class that guarantees that kind of money. I am also told that law school costs about 50.000 USD per annum and most rookie lawyers can expect salary less then 50,000 USD. Most MD's come out of school after at least 6 years owing around 250,000 USD and most don't make 300,000 USD per annum.

    For 125 USD per hour I will teach you and guarantee that you will learn something.

    Chuck,

    If a rookie adjuster is seeking help outside of an organized apprentice/mentor project by soliciting individual adjusters, that rookie should INDEED pay for the experience. I mean you have to pay to get licensed, you have to pay to learn XM8 but yet they look for field experience (which is just as important as the former) for free.

    So I agree 100% with you on that. The issue is like you stated above, you provide the vehicle, you provide the equipment and you provide the claims 
    However, being as the rookie adjuster is looking for field experience by riding along with an experienced adjuster, how can they provide the claims? For them to provide claims they need field experience and to get field experience they have to provide the claims, kinda catch 22.

    Thoughts?

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    ChuckDeaton
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    07/23/2011 11:29 AM
    It is the same age old conundrum, what if I wanted to be a life insurance agent or an investment banker? Or, there is an adjuster who left a career as a Master Electrician, reverse the situation, what if I wanted to be a Master Electrician or a certified pipe line welder? Or an over the road trucker. The fiddler has to be paid.

    Highly successful people, income wise, generally start in kindergarten, their personalities are generally right, they learn easily, they pay attention to details, misspelling, bad grammar in a public post I think not. Just realizing in middle age that you are out of a job and latching on to an amplified tale from a burger flipper/rodeo clown about how they made money adjusting mold claims in Texas and asking for assistance on a public forum is not generally going to work.

    My offer isn't new, my comments are not new, CADO is a pioneer and I was one of the first who posted here, but never have I ever had any rookie adjuster even pursue the idea much less actually do it. Ray Hall has offered, repeatedly, to mentor adjusters, he may have had some takers but very few. I know, personally, that Ray is as experienced as anyone in this business. Why wouldn't rookie adjusters be knocking Ray's door down, why isn't the free Crawford training overwhelmed? After all Crawford is A number one the biggest and the best in the business world wide. One of Crawford's best, Roy Cupp, created and marshaled this board for over a decade.

    I don't have a definitive answer.
    "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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    07/24/2011 1:11 AM
    Maybe if we could teach adjusting by TWITer youngums would actual listen and learn.
    I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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    07/24/2011 11:45 AM
    Pestie, You got the money, honey, I've got the time, and I guarantee you will learn something useful. Just hit me up. Oh, for wannabes that post under a pseudonym I require a retainer. At least use a little imagination!
    "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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    07/24/2011 12:55 PM
    You want to be an electrician, you find a minimum wage job cleaning up on a construction site, then you find a job as a helper, maybe you work out a little raise, finally you join a union and now you are an apprentice, finally you get a journeyman's book and if you live long enough you finally become a Master Electrician.

    You might pay to go to a vocational school.

    Generally, a family member will help you, your dad or an uncle that is tired of supporting you and cleaning up, will show you the ropes, help you get out of bed and to work on time and will help with expenses.

    I may have gotten some details wrong, but this is basically true for most trades, plumbers, welders, truck drivers, iron workers,diesel mechanics, etc.

    "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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    07/25/2011 4:46 PM

     As a cat. adjuster you are exoected to be able to close files that will stay closed. This is very hard work to get into and make it worth while to to make a living with all the expense of having large living expenses. Many good cat. adjusters were taught the biz. by a close releative. I don,t know of any persons who have tried the "good guy" ride along that did it more than one time. Thats all the time it took me. Learn xmate inside and out at what ever it cost you. I just learned of what 27 will do for you on roof claims today and over 90% of all cat. claims have the roof involved in the scope of damage.

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    pestguy22
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    07/25/2011 5:29 PM
    Thanks guys. I found someone willing to help.
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    CatAdjusterX
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    07/28/2011 6:40 PM
    Posted By Brownie on 25 Jul 2011 05:29 PM
    Thanks guys. I found someone willing to help.


    That's great buddy, hang in there !!
     

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    msmith
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    08/03/2011 5:05 PM
    Hello everyone. Like the previous poster, I'm wondering if there's anyone out there who would allow me to ride along with them for a few days. I have my TX P&C license, went to Amcat Basic Adjuster training, and am USAA emergency certified. I'm scheduled to take the Pilot evaluation soon, and then State Farm cert. after that.

    You know, I think I'd even be willing to pay Ray or Chuck(!) to ride along with me, but can't do it if I don't have any claims to work yet. Feel free to respond here or private message me.

    I have many years experience in roof estimating, sales, supervising, etc. And some general construction.
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    leighntenn
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    09/06/2011 10:06 AM

    I do have to reply to this one.  My husband got his license two years ago, I took all the classes with him so we can travel as a team.  We did the Crawford & co week, drove to Knoxville and certified in earthquake.  I wrote Ray Hall and as a newbie said we would drive to Texas to ride.  His response to me was draw our house and send it too him.  Which we had done 50 times already.  We then found a couple that said they would take us out on the first storm with them after my husband rode with the guy a couple of time.  So here what has happened since.  Irene hit, we got called by a major co but was told to go out with a mentor.  We drove from Fl to Raleigh for the orientation, contacted the couple that said they would help us and was with the same co. they were coming from Indiana.  We are thinking finally we can go to work right.  Wrong the couple had 50k in their pocket from the last job and has decided to spend some time with the children along the way.  So we have been sitting in a campground for over a week waiting.  Yesterday we started all over and sent the resume out to 16 more co.  My husband thinks he can scope a job and we think we can do a fair job of scetch but what we have no experience on is putting the file together in packet and sending it in.,  We are probably do not have the finances we should to sit much longer without anything but could pay something for some help for the final stuff we need to learn.  We are sitting in Wilmington NC but would travel where needed.

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    09/09/2011 2:23 AM
    Posted By leigh mckimmie on 06 Sep 2011 10:06 AM

    I do have to reply to this one.  My husband got his license two years ago, I took all the classes with him so we can travel as a team.  We did the Crawford & co week, drove to Knoxville and certified in earthquake.  I wrote Ray Hall and as a newbie said we would drive to Texas to ride.  His response to me was draw our house and send it too him.  Which we had done 50 times already.  We then found a couple that said they would take us out on the first storm with them after my husband rode with the guy a couple of time.  So here what has happened since.  Irene hit, we got called by a major co but was told to go out with a mentor.  We drove from Fl to Raleigh for the orientation, contacted the couple that said they would help us and was with the same co. they were coming from Indiana.  We are thinking finally we can go to work right.  Wrong the couple had 50k in their pocket from the last job and has decided to spend some time with the children along the way.  So we have been sitting in a campground for over a week waiting.  Yesterday we started all over and sent the resume out to 16 more co.  My husband thinks he can scope a job and we think we can do a fair job of scetch but what we have no experience on is putting the file together in packet and sending it in.,  We are probably do not have the finances we should to sit much longer without anything but could pay something for some help for the final stuff we need to learn.  We are sitting in Wilmington NC but would travel where needed.

    Hey there, I hope you were speaking about Ray in a positive light because Ray has bent over backwards to teach serious adjusters about the biz.

    Give me a call at (541) 450-4718 anytime tomorrow (PST) and/or drop an email to Robby@avcatservices.com  We have quite a few adjusters deployed throughout the general vicinity and maybe we can help you get some experience and whilst no promises, may have something for you to see if you can close claims and get you guys some positive cash flow.

     

     

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    georgelamar
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    01/02/2012 2:01 PM
    Anyone in the North Texas area or Dallas area. Im a new adjuster and would love to ride along with someone also...
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