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Last Post 06/11/2010 11:14 PM by ChuckDeaton

is there a way to merge 2 estimates and get a comparative?

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Leland

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05/13/2010 8:09 PM
is there a way to merge 2 estimates and get a comparative? is it possible to load 2 xm8 esx files into one comparative that will spit out a list of differences? My coworker says he has seen a printout like this but nobody seems to know how

ChuckDeaton
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05/13/2010 9:13 PM
I have never seen a situation where two XM8 files could be compared in XM8. Actually as many files as I have compared I have never had all the XM8 files. The plaintiffs PA and/or attorney just will not give them up. But a large part of my business is comparing estimates,sometimes as many as five on a singe risk, and actual money spent, and assisting with negotiations and testifying. "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt

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05/13/2010 11:58 PM
Yes you can merge estimates, go to the projects tabs and select merge from the options menu. What version are you working with? Roy Contact Us - Search CADO - Storm Page - The Career Page - CADO Channels

ChuckDeaton
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05/14/2010 12:47 AM
Would the estimate files have to come from the same version? "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt

Leland

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05/14/2010 11:32 AM
OK, but merging them will just create one monster estimate, not a report on how they compare to each other- or? What I would like to know is can you make an automated report where it spits out a list by room or trade (or both) showing how contractor A is $50.12 higher on paint and $600 lower on framing etc etc.

Davidad1

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05/22/2010 10:43 AM
No not to my knowledge, unless a carrier has a custom version from Xactimate Estimating is living on the edge between greed and fear

rickhans

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06/06/2010 1:53 AM
I was told there is a way to do it, but am not subscribed to Xact yet and have not tried it, but have with Powerclaim. First you have to export your estimate to a format that can be imported by XL. After exporting my Powerclaim estimate, I imported it in to XL using Microsoft XL 2005. I think 2003 will also work. Every item in the database file shows up in the spreadsheet including some calculations and numbers that you can't see on the estimate screen or on the printed report. I did not do this for a comparison, instead sorted on a number of the fields to get actual line item material costs broken out. By sorting on different fields I could create construction project sheets, material order forms, and track my actual cost as the job progressed. With this ability additional sheets can be created stripping out un-needed data to import a 2nd spreadsheet then setup formulas to calculate variance between the two in any fashion desired including just the summed up trade categories. Before and during Xact training, and having used this feature on Powerclaim, I discussed this feature at length with Xact support techs and was given a description of how to do it. The procedure described was the same as using Powerclaim.

ChuckDeaton
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06/06/2010 9:49 AM
Email both estimates to me at the same time mail me a retainer. I will put both estimates into an Excel workbook, room by room, line by line and email the workbook back to you with my invoice. Charges are commensurate with the time worked, level of expertise and the equipment required. 24 hour turn around on most estimates. Time starts from receipt of the retainer. "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt

Ray Hall

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06/11/2010 2:20 PM
Chuck which state or states agree with you opine, I am only speaking of the state of Tx. and other that I have worked. The state off Tx was challanged in 1992 on redecking roofs that had no value and ruled it had no value . The ins. dept. of TX ruled other wise.It,s a commish ruling, not a law. Now if the new roof needs a deck to nail to and has no value in TX. and labor and material is $1.00 material and .25 labor and it has no value, but is put on, is this not betterment. And does not betterment apply to the complete operation. Who decide a law in one state applied to ever state a traveling catastrophe adjuster would be traveling to ? Lets not confuse the new people with depreciation, many do not know how stained by water ceilings are repaired.

ChuckDeaton
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06/11/2010 5:01 PM
All adjusters would agree case law is different from state to state, actually case law is different in each jurisdiction and from each level of jurisdiction. I am not an attorney and I am not attempting to practice law. With that said my personal rule of thumb is to do what the client wants done regarding application of depreciation. My advice would be, generally speaking labor is not a depreciable item. Paint depreciates, Roofing materials depreciate but labor does not depreciate. "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt

Ray Hall

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06/11/2010 5:54 PM
If you have a jet aircraft engine that needs to be overhauled on a regular basis, would the owner of the aircraft be better off if most of the cost to do this service is in labor like 20 to 5 ratio. When you take your new vehicle back for the 90,000 mile warranty work, is the owner any better off. Think enhancement, betterment instead depreciation and this is a simple mind way to grasp. I even think getting a hair cut each two weeks is all labor, but it is surely enhancement or betterment a softer word for depreciation. Why do some painters mask off and some don,t. Why does something need to be painted , a new look is not betterment-enhancement. ? come on this is a bogus thumb rule.Who dreamed that up xactimate and the water suckers?

ChuckDeaton
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06/11/2010 11:14 PM
Show me a policy that uses the word "betterment" or the word "enhancement". Any policy. Show me any definition of ACV (actual cash value) that uses either word. "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt

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