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Last Post 04/19/2010 8:13 AM by  sbeau4014
2010 Flood Workshops
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03/23/2010 4:27 PM

    I was just registering for this year's certification seminar, when I was taken aback at the now $50.00 charge for these seminars.

    I do believe last year was just $10.00 (as were all the ones I have been to since I started going in 1996), and held in Norfolk, which is 18 miles from my office.  This year the closest seminar is in Greenville, NC which is a three hour drive away.  If the seminars still start at 8AM, which the posted .pdf does not say, I will need to be on the road by 4:45AM or shell out for a hotel room for the night before.  I do not function well when I arise that early, thus last year's $10.00 seminar this year costs $150.00, including gas and lodging.

    As per the instructions on the .pdf page one, "Please review the form before faxing, and fax only page 2.  Transmitting more than once may result in double charging".  As per the instructions on page two about credit card payment, "To charge registrations on MasterCard, Visa, AmEX, Discover and Credit/Debit cards please complete the information requested above and fax both pages to our secure fax server at 813.632.9377."  Page one has nothing that can be filled out.  It almost looks as if they are shooting for double billings.  Then they can get $100.00 per attendee.

    I wonder if they had not raised the price 400 percent if the instructions would be consistent. 

    Good thing the economy is humming along and everyone is flush with money.

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    03/24/2010 10:14 AM
    I totally agree. Workshop for LA is in New Orleans. Four hour drive for me. H20 partners is holding the workshop at the INTERCONTINENTAL HOTEL & RESORT downtown New Orleans. Available rooms rate range from $244 - $1,000. Never seen nothing like this the 10+ years of attending NFIP workshops.
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    03/24/2010 10:44 AM

    The Houston Workshop was at the Humble Civic center, free parking etc. H2O had a much better class than all the ones I have been to before. The company I paid my $50.00 to was Fountain Adjusters and they must have rented the space, furnished the danish , coffee and paid the instructors. It is required and I think it save the FEMA bunch the cost, which is good.
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    03/24/2010 12:27 PM
    I believe attending workshop under adjusting firm certified with NFIP would be better and cheaper this year , as stated by Mr Hall. Adjusting firm helps pay the cost of rented space, etc. . I don’t see where H20 held a workshop in Houston this year directly. New Orleans hotel are so expensive downtown on April 26.2010 due to Jazz & Heritage Fest.
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    WILLIS
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    03/27/2010 1:37 PM

    Flood also quit providing CE credit hours as of this year.  Got lucky this year  Crawford is holding a free class here in Atlanta  saved me $50.00 + travel costs   But alas Citizens certification is last of April  it is free but lodging and travel are not  but  one our two is not bad. Lets hope 2010 is not a dry year like the last 3 
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    03/31/2010 9:54 AM

    Do not expect anything new.  Same PowerPoint with same photos and videos.  The Newton, NJ seminar was held at an old Community College where only chairs were provided, no tables.  So you had to juggle your handouts on your lap.  But, for my $50.00 I did get a blueberry muffin and a cup of coffee.  Due to the poor geographic location of the seminars, which increased our travel cost, we only sent 5 Adjusters.  Past years we have 12-15 attend
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    04/05/2010 2:46 AM

    Willis, You might check again as to the CE credit.  I attended in Fort Worth in March and my ce credit has already been posted by them on CIRCON for Texas.
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    Jgoodman
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    04/11/2010 3:51 PM

    So I went to the Flood presentation in Greenville, NC.  As someone posted above, the presentation is very much like last year's. 

    The one new thing I have never seen before was the sponsor.  A vendor "sponsored" the presentation, the instructor told us, paying for the room and the refreshments.   That only made me wonder where the $50.00 I paid was going.   The cost goes from $10.00 to $50.00, in a year and someone else pays for the room, food and drink.

    I was under the impression that going to multiple vendors for the NFIP program was going to make things more efficient.  I just did not realize that the increased efficiency was the efficiency of them getting my money out of my wallet.

    No one increased my revenues by 400% and greatly reduced my cost for my adjusting business to produce the exact same product this year, but it seems to be the case for the large private company putting on the presentation.

    But, hey, those storm adjusters are just rolling in the money, they can afford it.

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    StormSupport
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    04/11/2010 6:00 PM

    The one scheduled in Cayce, SC was $20.00 for registration, but they don't offer any CE credits for that.  I figured that I could get more CE credits than the one they would provide for the $30.00 I was saving...

    I probably  won't get  a complementary muffin either.... 

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    claims_ray
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    04/11/2010 7:25 PM
    Someone there may compliment you Meg, I wouldn't sell yourself short if I were you. Lol
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    Leland
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    04/19/2010 2:21 AM
    I went. They admitted to me that the coinsurance slide has a error, but thay are waiting for federal authorization to change it. It says "ITV" (Insured to value) when it really should say something like "percentage compensable".

    my example: rcv 100,000. 90% coinsurance. Insured for 45k. This claim would be 50% compensable, not 50% ITV.

    Also a toilet no longer automatically disqualifies a detached garage from coverage. Now the adjuster will need to "adjust" and ascertain whether the detached garage is used for living. If no, there is coverage, whether or not a toilet is seen.
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    sbeau4014
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    04/19/2010 8:13 AM
    Anyone going to the flood seminar in St Peters, MO (St Louis area) this Wednesday? Going to that one here and will see just my extra $40 this year gets us.
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