Posted By Tim_Johnson on 20 Mar 2009
I am in a debate, we agreed to let the CADO community settle it, 130 squares, 3 tab, 2 story, 12/12 pitch (church), how do you figure it?;
...My buddy says the correct way to do it is to figure the high and steep charge twice, once for removal and once for replacement. I disagree.
How do you write this up?
At the risk of upsetting the 20% that don't use Xactimate, I will assume you are one of the 80% that does use it.
Like most repair items in Xactimate, you can remove the thing (-) or put it back (+) or Remove and Replace (&)
Focusing on the Steep fee, in my area here are the prices:
(-) 11.02 remove only, maybe you don't want to allow waste factor on this aspect of steep fee
(+) 25.91 replace only, maybe the house burned and you are just putting back
(&) 36.93 R&R if you want to keep it simple. Most people allow R&R steep, as default setting is "&" for this item.
When you go to print the estimate, or "preview" it, the wording of the repair item will change depending on how the adjuster selected the activity for (-) remove, it will say "Remove Additional Charge for steep roof". If the default (&) was selected, the repair item will be "R&R Additional charge for steep roof". If you choose (+) it will just say "Additional Charge for steep roof".
If your buddy says to "figure the high and steep charge twice", he better take the time to change the default R&R activity code (&) to "Remove" (-) the actual size of roof. And the 2nd entry needs to be (+) and could include waste factor. (that is the only reason to enter it twice, and is what I do personally, allowing waste on the "put back" steep or high charge).
If he "blows and goes" and leaves the default "R&R" twice, then he is double dipping.
Like most things in Xm8, you can get a detailed description for the repair item and here's this one:
Includes: Additional charge for lost labor productivity on a steep roof (7/12 to 9/12 slope), due to working with roof jacks, additional toe board installation, and additional safety precautions.
Note: If steep roof is also 2 stories or higher, see RFGHIGH.
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And typical to Xm8, they suggest other possible items or things they are not including in this one (steep will remind you to consider "high" if 2 stories, shower tile may remind you that the pan membrane would need to be added, etc.) For those who notice that this description only mentions 7/12 to 9/12 slope, rest assured there are 2 other items in the database for steeper slopes (commonly referred to as "Pucker City" and "Widow-maker")