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Yes, I know what you are about, Robbie, and I believe you started here and with your own site with your heart in the right place. Problem is folks who don’t know you will base their judgment of you on the first impression. This guy was asking procedural questions and your first comment in this thread was to question his honesty and integrity. Bad form, sir, as well as bad manners. Unless my memory fails me (and many times it does) you also came to this industry from the construction field and, probably for the same reasons, opportunity to make money. Same with this guy. Your last comments are closer to what your first comments should have been. And I think when you calm down, go back and read the thread you will agree.

I find myself growing weary (again) of the bullying comments, snide remarks, and holier than thou attitudes that permeate this and other forums. You open a forum like this with the intended purpose to share information and knowledge. You can’t invite people into your house and then have your dogs attack them and say, “Oh, you’ll get used it.” Perhaps there should be a banner on the opening page that reads: “Abandon all civility ye who enter.”

And yes, I did learn from Deputy Fife, “You gotta nip it in the bud.”

Posted By Steve on 01 Nov 2012 09:47 AM
Yes, I know what you are about, Robbie, and I believe you started here and with your own site with your heart in the right place. Problem is folks who don’t know you will base their judgment of you on the first impression. This guy was asking procedural questions and your first comment in this thread was to question his honesty and integrity. Bad form, sir, as well as bad manners. Unless my memory fails me (and many times it does) you also came to this industry from the construction field and, probably for the same reasons, opportunity to make money. Same with this guy. Your last comments are closer to what your first comments should have been. And I think when you calm down, go back and read the thread you will agree.

I find myself growing weary (again) of the bullying comments, snide remarks, and holier than thou attitudes that permeate this and other forums. You open a forum like this with the intended purpose to share information and knowledge. You can’t invite people into your house and then have your dogs attack them and say, “Oh, you’ll get used it.” Perhaps there should be a banner on the opening page that reads: “Abandon all civility ye who enter.”

And yes, I did learn from Deputy Fife, “You gotta nip it in the bud.”
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Fair enough, well said! Nevertheless, when I started I was extremely lucky to be asked to come out and learn how to do claims. I knew about insurance adjusters just not very much. My intention was to work a few months and continue with my concrete work. I hated it at first and furious that I was making less than half the money promised, but they wouldn't let me do my own claims (thank god for that now) until I showed them I could competently do so. I decided to stay for the next round and that next round ended up being the 4 in 2004 and then Katrina/Rita in 2005. I can't imagine ever going back to concrete now. I am also fully aware that I was extremely lucky and still am.

I HATE it when rookie adjusters are LURED IN by some unscrupulous vendor. So maybe there is some type of god complex(Nah not really) you know, hate the sin not the sinner? I cannot blame folks who were lied to.

In any case, you made a great point and I thank you for that.

I just want to point out that I was never lured in by the promise of easy money. I cannot find anything in my comments that would lead anyone to believe that I was "lured". I have literally witnessed close to a thousand hail/wind adjustments over the past 8 years. So needless to say I have had a few conversations with adjusters. Out of all those adjusters not one said adjusting was easy, or that it paid a silly amount of money. In fact most of them told me that the job required 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week, for months on end. With the exception of Katrina, I have never had to work that hard as a salesmen. I have always understood that being an adjuster would require hard work. As far as money goes, well, adjusting is no different that any other performance based paying jobs, right? I have heard the low end for Cat adjusters is 40k, the guys with some skill make around 60k, and the top end guys make 100k+, is that right? If it is than adjusting pays just like Cat sales (and most performance based paying jobs). Being that I am starting fresh in a new field that means I am actually going to take a pay cut to be an adjuster. I would think it will take me 5 years before I am a good enough adjuster to make the same amount of money I make as a seasoned salesmen. There are a lot of reason I want to be become an adjuster, but easy money is not one of them. 

Posted By Charlesp233 on 02 Nov 2012 12:35 PM
I just want to point out that I was never lured in by the promise of easy money. I cannot find anything in my comments that would lead anyone to believe that I was "lured". I have literally witnessed close to a thousand hail/wind adjustments over the past 8 years. So needless to say I have had a few conversations with adjusters. Out of all those adjusters not one said adjusting was easy, or that it paid a silly amount of money. In fact most of them told me that the job required 12-14 hours a day, 7 days a week, for months on end. With the exception of Katrina, I have never had to work that hard as a salesmen. I have always understood that being an adjuster would require hard work. As far as money goes, well, adjusting is no different that any other performance based paying jobs, right? I have heard the low end for Cat adjusters is 40k, the guys with some skill make around 60k, and the top end guys make 100k+, is that right? If it is than adjusting pays just like Cat sales (and most performance based paying jobs). Being that I am starting fresh in a new field that means I am actually going to take a pay cut to be an adjuster. I would think it will take me 5 years before I am a good enough adjuster to make the same amount of money I make as a seasoned salesmen. There are a lot of reason I want to be become an adjuster, but easy money is not one of them. 

Charles, my statement about being lured in was not about you, it was about the predatory vendors who prey on rookie adjusters.

Thank you for clarifying your position and intentions. The money questions above are reasonably accurate maybe a little on the low end but accurate nonetheless. However, that only applies to when there is work. It can and will be inconsistent for the first year or so maybe longer

Hey Charles,

Good posts. I like your energy and you communicate well with a keyboard. You couple that with your sales and construction experience, you will make a wonderful adjuster. I can also see that you accept that you have a learning curve.

I just had dinner with an EGA last night who's working on a handful of power plants that got flooded. He told me to never stop learning and truly believe that you never will. As soon as you think you got your stuff together, you're done. (FYI: EGA means Executive General Adjuster and, in short, is someone who handles losses with multi-million dollar exposures on a routine basis.)