05/04/2007 5:36 PM |
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Has anyone ever used a restoration company that had the Esporta Wash System for restoring smoke and flood damaged contents?
It can restore 85% of the contents that are currently being thrown out. Insurance adjusters have been quoted saying that it "saves the insurance industry thousands of dollars per loss. It's incredible!"
What are your thoughts?
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05/04/2007 9:39 PM |
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Would never happen here in SE Florida. Anything touched by water or smoke is not salvageable.
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HuskerCatVeteran Member Posts:762
05/05/2007 12:54 AM |
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I predict some response to that!
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Ray HallSenior Member Posts:2443
05/05/2007 3:45 PM |
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I will believe this sales pitch, when I see it with my own eye,s on 10 losses that I have worked
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katadjFounding Member Member Posts:256
05/06/2007 3:04 PM |
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Some smoke damaged items can be restored if immediately placed in a contained ozone chamber and monitored correctly. This does not always work , however many items can be returned to the preloss condition. One immediate necessity is to fog the smoke damaged structure with a .04 micron fog which will penetrate all of the areas that normal smoke (.08 micron) cannot get to.
Second , it is imperative that the smoke damaged items are put into a controlled environment, a sealed ozone chamber for a specific time and closely monitored. All of this is costly but in most cases less that the ACV of the damaged items.
With respect to flood damaged items. This is totally dependent on the item. Paper goods can be immediately frozen and properly restored. Wood items can possibly be restored under controlled conditions by craftsmen whom are familiar with the required processes.
Soft goods, (sofa, chair, mattress, rugs) are very rarely restore able.
As Ray has stated, I would have to see it, to believe it otherwise.
"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein"
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05/06/2007 4:10 PM |
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My experience with smoke is everything will smell and look all nice and clean after whatever treatment you perform but the second some circumstance causes the humidity to raise (hard rain or a/c failure etc.) it will again smell like a forest fire. No treatment can 100% get the smoke particles from behind the baseboard, out of the electrical switch and sockets, out from the inner workings of the refrigerator let alone the nook and crannies of the attic and a/c system. I am sure the .04 fog does a good job but not 100%. When it comes to contents 'restored' is not returned to preloss condition. The only time 'restored' is appropriate is when it returns the item to better than preloss condition. For example reupholstering a couch that does not hold any particular value in the original upholstery. Hardwood furniture generally holds its value in its original finish. Refinished furniture is not preloss condition. There are exceptions when the insured will agree that the item of furniture has no particular value to its current finish and a refinish is acceptable. This of course is never the case with any antique item. There is no reason to even discuss particle board type furniture.
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Ray HallSenior Member Posts:2443
05/07/2007 11:10 AM |
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If its so good, why does the contractor not do the work on this basis..."no cure, no pay" hmmm
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05/07/2007 11:15 AM |
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Thats exactly what they do. Insurance companies pay only 15-20% of the replacement cost of whatever is being cleaned. If it is not cleaned to pre-loss condition, there is no charge and the insurance company is no worse off than it was before.
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05/07/2007 2:25 PM |
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Mr Grant
It is apparent that your comments in support of this system are rather self serving. Why don't you take out a banner ad or classifed like the rest of the companies that want to peddle their wares?
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05/07/2007 2:44 PM |
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Mr. Halye
I appologize for the misunderstanding. Selling the Esporta system to you is not my intention. I am trying to spread the word about a new technology that Insurance companies are saving thousands of dollars on each claim with.
WIth the value of contents in peoples homes reaching amazing amounts, having a tool that can restore, rather than replace is critical. Im confident that the shareholders of your company would be interested in this.
I would be happy to share more information with you on this new technology. Feel free to call me direct at 1.800.881.7781 EXT 114
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StormSupportGold Member Member Posts:203
06/07/2007 8:53 AM |
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Posted By Craig Halye on 05/07/2007 2:25 PM
Mr Grant
It is apparent that your comments in support of this system are rather self serving. Why don't you take out a banner ad or classifed like the rest of the companies that want to peddle their wares?
Well said Craig, and I agree. This is a rather circuitous way to go about marketing a product.
Do the right thing, ALWAYS ~Meg~
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08/11/2007 1:03 AM |
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Just when you think you have seen every way a Restoration company can milk a claim, they come up with another!
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08/13/2007 10:24 AM |
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Mrs. McMurchy,
I understand how you feel. In the Insurance industry there can be great pressure to save money. I am not a restoration company, nor am I discussing a way for restoration companies to "milk a claim". The process i am talking about is one in which restoration companies make a significant investment in a system, in order to save the insurance companies money. This is a process that a representative of Crawford has said is saving Insurance companies "thousands of dollars on each claim." This is happening because the system is restoring 85% of the contents that were previously considered non-restorable and cashed out. This means that Insurance companies are saving 80 - 85% of the replacement cost.
Restoring goods rather than replacing them is nothing new. Im sure you are aware it has been happening for quite some time. This is because it saves Insurance companies from having to pay full replacement cost. The only difference is that with this new process, more goods are restored (saving more money) and the goods are processed faster (allowing the claims to be closed faster.)
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08/13/2007 6:38 PM |
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Neil
Here is a suggestion
If you are so confident in the system, why not purchase these smoke and flood damaged items items as salvage , clean them then resell them .
That would allow the carriers, homeowners, and yourself to all win.
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08/13/2007 7:26 PM |
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Ha Ha... I can see this is going no where. Best Wishes.
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08/14/2007 5:03 PM |
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I smell more than smoke from that ad attempt.
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Ray HallSenior Member Posts:2443
08/14/2007 5:28 PM |
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Neal Grant to save flooded contents from being totaled in 85% of the losses this system is used on. Neal you ole BS 'r ,you have the % wrong its 5 %.
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08/14/2007 6:01 PM |
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Lets go over some of the FACTS:
- The Esporta Wash System restores all sorts of smoke/soot and water damaged soft contents (shoes, purses, laundry, stuffed animals, etc.)
- The Esporta Wash System has proven to restore 85% of the water damaged goods that are otherwise cashed out (thrown out).
- The Esporta Wash System has proven to restore 50% of the smoke/soot damaged goods that are otherwise cashed out (thrown out).
- Restoration companies that are able to provide this cleaning service do so with a no risk gaurantee. If the items being cleaned dont respond, the Insurance companies pay nothing for the cleaning of those items.
- Insurance Companies are saving huge dollars by using restoration companies that offer the Esporta Cleaning Service. In the past 8 months, one restoration company saved it's customers (insurance companies) over $500,000.
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