Posted By tonyd46 on 10/12/2007 9:28 AM
Stormsupport,
(1) sorry you took only one part of my statements to heart. When i said i'm sometime ashamed to be an american it's because look at what we have done. We are trying to impose our will on other countries that do not except our culture. It's embaressing to try to make an enity change their beliefs and way of life. How would you like it if it was done to you.We are a nation of sheep led by idiots who only think of themselves and their own personal gain. (2) I am a vet who is proud of america except when we do stupid things like illegal wars and occupation of foriegn countries. I have given to our country my heart and soul and almost my life during the 70"s overseas, (3)so before you question my being ashamed walk a mile in my shoes and see the world thru my eyes. over the past 50 years i have watch changes in our country that were amazing but i have also watched how our country has deteriated in both values and morals. Maybe i am old fashioned but to be a great country we have to be of strong conviction and moral compass. We also need leaders who feel the same way the little folks do and not just give us lip service. in closing till we as a nation are willing to stand up and really tell it like it is then these feelings will sometimes be there. I do appreciate your imput but please understand after all these years here on this planet (4) I have earned the right to feel the way I do and i have the scars and the disability to prove it. remember our constitutional rights have been trampled on by our present goverment and we let them.
Tony,
1) I didn't take any of your post "to heart" I was only quoting EXACTLY what you said. I was only saying how sad it was that you're ashamed to be an American.
2) Gee, Tony, is that a little like only being proud of your children when they do things you approve of? You either are proud, regardless, or not. You don't get to flip flop back and forth due to what you regard as acceptable or unacceptable behavior. You're the one who said you were ashamed, not me.
3) I didn't question anything. As stated above, I ONLY QUOTED WHAT YOU SAID
4) Yes, certainly you have EARNED the right, by virtue of the fact that YOU'RE AN AMERICAN. Yes, I'm grateful for your service to our country, but one would think that would make you feel even more proud to BE AN AMERICAN, rather than feel ashamed. I am the daughter of a WWII veteran, one who went through Pearl Harbor and lost many of his comrades, and I feel very strongly about our military and our country. Yes, we have problems, but we are living in a country that enables us to get in and make change. So, rather than spout off about how bad things are, I believe a better solution is getting involved and actually implementing change.
So, before you adopt any more defensive posture toward me, please remember that I WAS ONLY QUOTING YOU. I didn't make up anything, nor did I misquote you. THOSE WERE YOUR WORDS. Might I suggest that if you have such strong opinions regarding what's going on in the country that you actually *DO* something about it rather than just criticize and blame?
~M~