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HuskerCat
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03/20/2007 9:43 PM

Steve--

The next time that happens, set your receiver to the Spice Network.  The dish will heat up and give you good reception again.

 

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03/22/2007 11:48 AM
Has anyone used the telescoping ladder Telesteps? If so, are they safe? Thanks.
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03/22/2007 6:00 PM
ro ry, no, they are not!!!!!!!
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03/23/2007 12:54 AM
Hi Tom, Why do you dislike telesteps?
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03/26/2007 5:17 PM

Nita, he said they are unsafe.  That's about as good as any reason not to like a ladder.

I had one for less than six months of regular (not cat) claims adjusting and several of the moving parts gummed up on me and prevented me from collapsing it.  The last time I used it, it decided to collapse one rung height.  That was all the warning I needed.

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03/27/2007 1:27 AM

I was curious, since I just invested in the ladder. Thanks

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04/01/2007 4:05 PM

Both my daughter and I use them and love them.  They have limitations, and must be used with caution.

You must make sure that each rung locks in place, and be careful of pinched fingers when collapsing.

I don't trust them on a loose gravel surface, and they are limited in height.

But we've used them now for two years and never had either collapse or stick.  They are lightweight and easy to get in and out of a car.

Also, even though they are rated for 250lbs, I wouldn't trust them much over 200, which keeps chubby roofers and PA'a at bay!

My daughter swears they are a great distraction if you're in a scary neighborhood or one full of retirees who all want to talk to you.

She says you just whip out the ladder - they are all so fascinated with it that they leave you alone to get on with your work!

 

Best to all,

Betrock

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04/05/2007 10:46 AM
Any ladder can be unsafe, inclusive of Little Giant, if not used properly. The more mechanics a ladder has in it, the more probability for an accident. Having seen a telesteps collapse with an adjuster on it gave me concern. Did he lock it properly, did the ladder fail, was the ladder maintained properly. The little giant has less mechanics than the telesteps, is wider at the top and base, and is easily maintained. The telesteps is more compact and lighter, but I prefer my ladder to be safer. I have a number of adjuster friends who bought them, then sold them soon after use, because of the possibility of collapse. Janice and I will stick with the tried and true, Little Giant.
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04/05/2007 7:50 PM
I have a Lil Giant and a JAWS, the Jaws is very heavy built and very heavy, however the cost is high , but so is the loss if I get hurt.  Its funny that when we are making a good income some try to save pennies buying cheapy ladder.  For some reason I want to climb down a ladder, not fall down a cheapo ladder.
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04/07/2007 8:15 PM
Yesterday, one of our staff adjusters was exiting a metal roof after his inspection and just as he stepped onto the TELESCOPIC ladder, he heard a "click" and the ladder collapsed.

He has a broken left arm, a substantially damaged wrist which required immediate surgery to address some broken wrist bones and dislocated bones.

He has returned to his home in Michigan from New Mexico where we are still working the hail in Roswell.

This is not a rumor nor a scam.

If you have a TELESCOPIC ladder, you should review your options as to the availability of alternate roof access equipment. And, I would suggest you do so today.

Our company recommended that we buy this particular brand of TELESCOPIC ladder as it's easy to travel with. Our company also prefers that we fly to the storm site and rent a car as opposed to driving with all your equipment and supplies.

Please refer to my other posting on "Stupid".

In all seriousness, if you have a telescoping ladder, make sure you are substantially within it's weight rating and that all the latches latch and the releases release correctly.

My co-worker will recover. He is incredibly lucky he doesn't have a broken back or neck. He is fortunate that he is covered by workers comp. He is fortunate that he has medical insurance through our employer. Even though he now has his left arm in a splint with wires sticking out of his wrist, he's a pretty lucky guy.
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04/07/2007 9:36 PM

Larry, thanks for the update and I will re-iterate my statment. The more mechanical features a ladder has, the more likely it can fail. I did not like the looks of the telesteps the first time I saw one. Too complicated and I felt it to be dangerous. After seeing a friend of mine fall from his collapsing, I was comfortable with my first impression of it. There have been too many collapses with this contraption. I would suggest that all users be very consceintious about using it and making sure it is secure prior to egress and digress. Your man was lucky he did not fall and break his back or neck. He was very lucky.

Of courst you have to be careful with Little Giant also, making sure all latches latch properly, prior to use, this includes the Jaws ladder. Just be certain iyour ladders are safe prior to climbing.

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04/08/2007 1:01 AM

FYI, I was in Sam's Club or Costco (I can't remember which) and they had a 22' Little Giant for $300.

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04/08/2007 2:09 PM

hello-

i'm the guy larry was referring to, hence the one hand typing w/ no caps. everything larry said is accurate. i was having problems getting the red latches to come completely out so i was very concientious about making sure that they were before climbing the ladder. once the ladder started collapsing there was no where to go but down. i got a temporary fix in nm and am now back in mi where i need to see a hand surgeon for extensive surgery to repair all my carpal bones that shattered. if not for my bud's and co-workers, larry and chuck i'd have been up s..t's creek. thanks guys.

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04/08/2007 2:59 PM
I'm just glad that Dan is not in the hospital here in Roswell mending for weeks or months before he could go home.

Even though he has a broken arm and some wrist issues, I think he's lucky enough to buy my lottery tickets for me.
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05/25/2007 8:12 PM

I would be intererested to know if that incident was with a Telesteps or X-tend & climb. I understand that the Telesteps locks/unlocks all rungs @ once whereas the X-tend&climb you  lock/unlock each individually.

I use the X-tend & climb &damaged it the other day.  I had taken it up on a roof & went back to the eave, held it by the top rung & let it rip.  Something gave and now there are two rungs that will not lock.  It had gotten me on 4-500 roofs.  I am still using it @ its reduced height but have now ordered the new 15.5'.

 

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06/01/2007 11:00 AM

Dan, we are all glad you were not hurt any worse than you were, however, wrist issues are not good. I would like to know which of the extend ladders you were using. I personally don't like any of them, as I feel they are dangerous due to so many locking and unlocking mechanisms.

We all hope you get back up to speed ASAP and wish for an uneventful recovery. If any of us can help, as others have done for you, just let us know.

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08/04/2007 4:03 PM
Dan hasn't responded to which ladder he was on so ...................he had a Telesteps. Recommended by The Hartford Insurance Company as the ladder of choice.

The plot thickens .......................

I have an Extend & Climb and a 17ft Cosco (copy of a Little Giant). I have stated before and will state again, without reservation, that me and my Cosco are very comfortable together and I have no desire for anything that is "New", "Better", or "Improved". My Extend & Climb is still in the box.

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08/04/2007 9:30 PM
Update-
I had my wrist splint removed on June 19th (10 weeks after the incident). My wrist and thumb were almost totally rigid. I began therapy on my wrist and thumb for range of motion. As of today I can move my wrist forward about 45 degrees as opposed to over 90 degrees on my right wrist and back about 30 degrees also opposed to 90 degrees on my right hand. I can touch the tip of my thumb to all except my little finger and cross my thumb across my palm to between my first and second finger as opposed to between my ring finger and little finger on my right hand and I can't rotate my hand face up so it is paralelll with the ceiling (it's turned in about 20 degrees) and I cant move my wrist back and forth hardly at all (like casting a fishing rod) It may sound like a small amount of difference but it hinders my guitar playing significantly, I won't be able to push myself up off the floor with my left hand and I wake up in the morning with my fingers aching and stiff. I'm starting strength therapy tomorrow and continuing with range of motion therapy.
What is funny about all this is that I used to roof houses for a living, install windows, siding, trim, gutters all working off extension ladders carrying over a hundred pounds on my shoulder and tools for years and never fell once. Here I have a clipboard and have a 10 foot fall and do this.
Thank you everyone for your concern. I've been on light duty work for a few weeks and hope to return to normal work duties by mid September. You can bet I will not be climbing any Telesteps ladders for the remainder of my career.
I do thank God every day that it wasn't worse.
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04/28/2009 9:34 AM
I know we have a lot of adjusters out there working hail claims right now. We often get in a hurry and this can lead to injuries. Please take time to check your ladder and please be safe. My dad, a retired adjuster fell from a ladder yesterday and busted his head open. Six hours in ER, 2 CT Scans and 11 staples later we believe he is going to be OK. His fall happened when he was going up the ladder and the ladder was not locked in place and it came down.

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04/28/2009 10:33 AM
I was in a storm orientation last spring or summer and learned that either the vendor or the carrier (don't know which) had banned the Tele-Steps style ladder.  After they banned double pulls several years ago the Tele-Step became their number one cause of adjuster accidents.
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