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Last Post 11/11/2008 9:59 AM by  Tom Toll
Measuring wheel for roofs
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11/04/2008 7:13 PM
    I am looking for a measuring wheel to measure roofs to make it easier to measure certain areas such as ridges that end in the middle of the roof,  slopes etc..  Does anyone use one and what are your thoughts good or bad.  I need a good one as the one I have now is not ACCURATE!  Any thoughts on a good one?  Are the digital ones better? Any good brands? etc.
     
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    11/04/2008 7:14 PM
    I want to make sure I get an email if someone replies. How do I do that?

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    11/04/2008 7:25 PM
    Welcome to CADO...looks like probably your first posts.  Check out the threads under "Tools of the Trade".  I think you'll find plenty there (if you didn't already stumble across it) that the wheel isn't your best tool as it can jump & spin over shingle edges.  Accuracy is lost.  Re: email replies, make sure you've set up your profile correctly & included your email address, if anyone wants to send you a PM it should work.
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    11/04/2008 7:27 PM
    Thanks mike! You just saved me some cash from buying one! I never knew that.

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    11/04/2008 7:57 PM
    Now backup...I didn't say don't get one. They are mighty handy on flat roofs like your strip malls and other commercial buildings, and for doing the footprint (perimeters) of large buildings and even houses, and for fencing.  The best place I always found the wheel handy was on crash scenes, but that's a different story altogether if you don't do auto/truck liability or OTR cargo losses.  
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    11/04/2008 10:56 PM
    Is it that hard to use a tape measure?
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    11/04/2008 11:32 PM
    Posted By Dan Caradoona on 04 Nov 2008 07:13 PM
    I am looking for a measuring wheel to measure roofs... 
    ...I need a good one as the one I have now is not ACCURATE!   
     
    Even the best ones are not as accurate as a tape, and some of the larger Ins company trainers forbid their use for roof measuring.  I have done all kinds of claims over the years, including measuring accident scenes, and that is why I have roller wheels.  When I have tried them on roofs and compared to a 100' tape for the ridge, or fat-max for the rafter length, it will be off a bit.  Partly because of the "bumpy" surface of a shingled roof. 
    I have used them occasionally for large - flat commercial roofing.

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    11/05/2008 11:17 AM
     
    Dan,  Mike and Bob are right.  I will add that the bigger the measuring wheel the less the error in measurements.  Nevertheless, each tool of our trade has its own pros and cons.  The best thing to do is to have a few different kinds of distance measuring tools and call them to work when situation demands them.  Just like an auto mechanic that uses different wrenches to tackle different nuts.
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    11/06/2008 10:34 AM
    I have one, but it is only used to measure perimeters of buildings. On occasion I use it on flat roofs to measure, bearing in mind that if you have a parapet wall, you must measure from the center of the large wheel to the parapet and add that measurement for both ends to be accurate. Accuracy of measurement is paramount to a good claim.
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    11/06/2008 7:08 PM
    Who are you callin' a nut?
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    11/06/2008 8:42 PM
    Probably referring to one of them "master" mechanics...
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    11/10/2008 12:20 AM
    What did y'all do before the advent of all these toy's?

    Did you never learn to count shingles, any non metric 3 tab is 12" long and 5" to the weather.

    Just walk the ridge and count them. And on a hip count only the long side, and on an outset just the amount that protrudes.

    You don't even have to use a tape to measure the rafters, count the shingles up the slope multiply by 5, divide by 12 and viola there you have the rafter length.

    Some people take an hour to measure all the hips, ridges, valleys and all you ever need is the length x the up and over.

    Guess the old KISS principal will stay forgotten.
    "Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein"
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    11/10/2008 8:30 AM

    Posted By R .D. Hood on 10 Nov 2008 12:20 AM

    What did y'all do before the advent of all these toy's?
    ..... Guess the old KISS principal will stay forgotten.
     
     
    No Mr. Hood. The old principle of KISS will never die!  The modern "toys" are a necessary offshoot of the old KISS principle. They actually help to keep it simple by eliminating activities like long multiplication, bending and stretching muscles just to name a few!  On the other hand they tend to make us lazier and lazier. Met a High School junior yesterday, in church, that could not multiply 12 by 16 without the calculator in his cell phone


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    11/10/2008 8:40 PM
    It's...........uh..............148.7193, isn't it?
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    11/10/2008 8:42 PM
    Did you guys know that 97.43 percent of all percentages quoted are made up on the spot?

    Didja..huh.........didja?
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    11/10/2008 8:56 PM
    If the discs on my abacus are still working, that should be 192 not counting waste and rounding up to hit the next level on the fee schedule.
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    11/11/2008 9:59 AM
    As adjusters, we have many tools to make our jobs accurate, not necessarily easier and faster, but ACCURATE. I think sometimes we as a society are trying to speed up and make many things too convenient and cushy. Just use all your tools to ensure an accurate scope, and consequently, an accurate estimate.
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