06/18/2009 10:17 PM |
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I have attended certification classes for numerous carriers since January and it is now June. I have five years of adjusting daily and cat. My list of certs are over whelming. The cost has over whelmed my pocket book. Storms have hit all around hail, tornado, wind, flood, but where is all the work? On my last adventure to class I asked as I always do "Are you working with anyone" the answers seem to be no. If there is so many storms someone has to be working somewhere. Right? What is happening in the insurance industry? Are the firms just overloading there rosters to look good or are they serious about putting some of us to work. Not just in a cat event but maybe some, bones even daily bones, would be good to help us until the big one comes. That would help them secure a cat team and still keep some of us aside for the daily work in the area when the cat happens. I hear them say that they want to add us on the roster but they need to rethink that if our bills get behind during off season it leaves us little choice but to run away to a storm. We need to make the cash to catch up from the classes and training that we travel to, and may not ever work for them. How can we dedicate to them without them working us in the mean time. Why is there so many post for adjusters wanted and no calls except for training opportunities. Any answers? Please some one tell me what they think.
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ChuckDeatonLife Member Senior Member Posts:1110
06/19/2009 11:28 AM |
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This and another current post/advertisement is why I nearly always say, "stay on the porch." Cat adjusting just is not a get rich quick scheme, most cannot make a living, much less get rich. Most likely you have over estimated your abilities and under estimated how difficult this business really is. Are the vendors really trying to hire you or just charging you for certification?
"Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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Ray HallSenior Member Posts:2443
06/19/2009 2:43 PM |
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We had Andrew in 1992, the 4 in 2004, Katrina in 05 and IKE in 08. It takes many little or one big one to get ever one with a license out working. Many adjusters with thousands of settled losses are not working also. Just keep learning and you will be found some day.
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okclarrydVeteran Member Posts:954
06/22/2009 9:24 PM |
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As I've stated before and in other threads, ................ I've made a really good living through the years by working the wind/hail/small storm losses all over the US of A. I've done OK but that's all on the named storms. The smart vendors-IA companies assign a few newer adjusters to these storms and bring them along as per their abilities. They get to work alongside older guys with some informal mentoring going on. The new guys get to learn by doing and listening to our endless supply of BS.
Larry D Hardin
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ddreisbachMember Posts:172
06/23/2009 8:19 AM |
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My only thought is to ask about your licences. You're more likely to be deployed to states where you have a license. I worked in 5 states last year and am licensed in 4 of them (the fifth doesn't require a license). Eighteen states don't require adjusters to be licensed. Other than that... just keep plugging away at it.
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06/24/2009 4:10 PM |
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No that you have the tools..., you have to find a buyer. Start plugging away the resume and brush up on the PR.
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06/24/2009 6:14 PM |
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Posted By Ray Hall on 19 Jun 2009 02:43 PM
We had Andrew in 1992, the 4 in 2004, Katrina in 05 and IKE in 08. It takes many little or one big one to get ever one with a license out working. Many adjusters with thousands of settled losses are not working also. Just keep learning and you will be found some day.
Very Well Said Ray! Kudo's
"Each of us as human beings has a responsibility to reach out to help our brothers and sisters affected by disasters. One day it may be us or our loved ones needing someone to reach out and help."
RC ESTES
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06/25/2009 6:29 PM |
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This has been one of the calmest spring storm seasons in recent history. The big IA firms are all confirming the slowdown.
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okclarrydVeteran Member Posts:954
07/05/2009 1:29 PM |
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It's ALWAYS tornado and hail season in Texas and Oklahoma. There was a tornado in Norman, OK a couple of weeks ago.
You guys remember Norman, OK? You know, OU football and all that.
Keep your skills and licenses up to date and be a persistent, friendly face with those you want to work for.
Larry D Hardin
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07/05/2009 9:12 PM |
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A few of us are even up in Nebraska.
I know the voices aren't real, but sometimes they're right!
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BobHVeteran Member Posts:759
07/05/2009 10:56 PM |
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Posted By DaveSchultz on 25 Jun 2009 06:29 PM
This has been one of the calmest spring storm seasons in recent history. The big IA firms are all confirming the slowdown.
I'm working a storm in Michigan. The DOL is the date you posted your message. Winds blowing trees into houses, but the # of adjusters needed is a small group.
Bob H
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07/06/2009 12:16 AM |
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Just returned home this past Friday, spent the past 3 months in MS and AL working flood, wind, hail claims.
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07/07/2009 1:06 AM |
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I’ve been very fortunate so far. Started out in Washington State on 01/01/09; winter storm work in northern Nevada; then on to Utah and now in Colorado working a hailstorm.
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07/07/2009 2:50 AM |
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Posted By BobH on 05 Jul 2009 10:56 PM
Posted By DaveSchultz on 25 Jun 2009 06:29 PM
This has been one of the calmest spring storm seasons in recent history. The big IA firms are all confirming the slowdown.
I'm working a storm in Michigan. The DOL is the date you posted your message. Winds blowing trees into houses, but the # of adjusters needed is a small group.
Hey Bob! I haven't seen you since we were in Jacksonville last year. Hope things are going well for you! I did some winter storm work up in West Virginia earlier this year, but I'm looking for a big storm to keep us busy. Take care!
Michael Bradbury
I do it because I want to provide a better life for my family than my parents could provide for me.
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07/07/2009 8:45 AM |
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Bob- What part of Mi are you working in?
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BobHVeteran Member Posts:759
07/07/2009 10:12 PM |
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Posted By Amart on 07 Jul 2009 08:45 AM
Bob- What part of Mi are you working in?
Near Troy, most of my claims are in the towns of Sterling Heights and Clinton Township. They had a freak windstorm that only lasted 20 minutes, 70 mph winds, put lots of trees onto houses and downed power lines for up to 3 or 4 days in some cases. That resulted in Sewer Back-Up claims as well. I haven't been to Michigan before, nice time of year to check it out.
Posted by Michael Bradbury
Hey Bob! I haven't seen you since we were in Jacksonville last year.
Hi Mike, I remember you. Glad you found work, especially in West Virginia cuz that's one of the licenses I got that I thought I may never use. Wow, that's great they had claims for you there.
Bob H
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07/22/2009 7:40 PM |
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Posted By dharmacos on 24 Jun 2009 04:10 PM
No that you have the tools..., you have to find a buyer. Start plugging away the resume and brush up on the PR.
Brush up on the PR?? Most of the major carriers have my resume....Pilot, Renfroe, Worley, CL...and half a dozen others. I worked 2 storms last year but I am curious on how to brush up on my PR and get closer to the companies I am signed up with....??
Stu MacDiarmid
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Ray HallSenior Member Posts:2443
07/23/2009 10:58 AM |
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Most of the large vendors have a person that calls the adjuster to deploy. A frindly call helps from time to time. When you are coming and going to and from a storm helps.Kinda like the gate keeper in the doctors office if you are a salesman. Most of all do not ever get the reputation of being rude, not returning calls, not turing files around. Be very careful of the type wash you use(no alcohol) andf ber as neat as you can be.The best adjuster on the storm is the adjuster that the manager never hears his/her name.Diles closed EVER day is the key. Try to label your photos better than any other adjuster. Take a long shot and then close in. Get a 28mm camera or a 24mm if you can find one for interior shots.Use foot notes below you line items. Never be in a hurry even if you are, don,t vist and BS you are a professional, (I think)
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07/23/2009 1:27 PM |
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I was at the Pilot evaluation this spring and they didn't make it sound like calling them was a good thing. The feeling I got was basically if they need you they will call. Otherwise just wait....
Stu MacDiarmid
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Jud G.Advanced Member Posts:509
07/23/2009 1:38 PM |
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About five years ago a Pilot HR rep told me that, as a new roster member, to call them every three weeks or so to let them know that I was ready to go with them would be enough to have my name refreshed in their system.
Consider that perhaps Pilot was being polite with you.
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