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Tom Rongstad
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    01Snake
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    08/17/2007 10:31 PM
    Posted By Tom Rongstad on 08/16/2007 12:56 PM

    This storm just keeps going and going. Claims coming in daily in large amounts still. Many have not even turned them in yet. 

    This event is producing better for those attending than a Hurricane in '04 or '05

     

    Same deal over here in MN.

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    MMELLC
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    08/19/2007 2:25 PM

    I live in western WI. What IA firms are working MN hail claims? Please email me if you know of work available there.

    Greatly Appreciated.

    Rondy Martin  rbcccc@hotmail.com

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    randellmorgan
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    08/22/2007 2:11 PM
    Tom..........what IA firm are you adjusting hail for?
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    rbryanhines
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    08/23/2007 6:19 PM
    tom a simple i dont know or i'm not saying would be enough.
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    rbryanhines
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    08/23/2007 6:20 PM
    this should be titled " brag post"
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    jlongawa
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    10/30/2007 12:54 AM
    No shortage of hail claims here, but lots of contractor driven claims with little or minor damage lately. I live in a MN city that got hit with a few of these storms unfortunately my neighborhood got little to no hail (I needed a new roof). My wife was getting sick of answering the door due to the contractor hoard beating it down.

    I do have to say there must be a bunch of bad adjusters out there buying thermal blistering, manufactures defects and circling bird crap as hail. Half or more of my neighbors have gotten new roofs courtesy of their insurance companies for bogus hail damage. It irritates me to see some adjusters buying everything because of greed or they just do not have a clue. It devalues our profession.
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    Nicka0782
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    11/18/2007 2:13 PM
    i will second josh....lots of bogus claims here in MN, and im working as a contractor up here.
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    Tom Toll
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    11/18/2007 4:42 PM

    That would be the carriers fault. With every photo, there should be sevaral close ups to veryify hit damage. If they are paying out for blistering poop damage, they deserve it. I would not, as an examiner, accept a roof claim without several close ups.

    Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
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    Ray Hall
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    11/19/2007 10:20 PM

    All of us have worked hail storms like this. I never had much trouble after a real smart breakfast bud taught me a good lessen in a few words. "all of these claims have to be closed by someone, it might as well be me".

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    Ray Hall
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    03/15/2008 3:42 PM

    OK gang sounds like you can start at the Georgia line on 1-20 and 30 miles either size and work hail from golf ball to grapefruit size for several months. Take  lots of good photos, because I will be looking at some of your files and they will sail through

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    Ray Hall
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    03/16/2008 6:30 PM

    This may a slow starter as it was Friday Night and Saturday. The agents will call in losses on Monday and Tuesday. I still think it will be a major major hail storm of $2 billion or more in the next 6 months. Seems I was wrong on this one.

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    Ray Hall
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    03/16/2008 6:44 PM
    Posted By Ray Hall on 03/16/2008 6:30 PM

    This may a slow starter as it was Friday Night and Saturday. The agents will call in losses on Monday and Tuesday. I still think it will be a major major hail storm and last more in the next 6 months.

     

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    03/17/2008 6:17 PM

    Would be curious as to how many hail claims were reported today from Farmers Insurance.

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    cowboy26995
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    03/17/2008 8:52 PM

    Reports are that this storm will have 100-200 million in insured losses. Not really a biggie.

    Marc Dubois
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    cowboy26995
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    03/18/2008 11:15 AM
    Weekend Tornadoes Rated An Insurance Catastrophe
    BY MARK E. RUQUET
    NU Online News Service, March 17, 2:10 p.m. EDT


    The tornados that wreaked havoc through the South this past weekend were an insurance catastrophe event, said Property Claim Services, a unit of Insurance Services Office, in Jersey City, N.J.

    While no insured loss totals were available, PCS generally declares a catastrophe when there is an insured loss of more than $25 million and an impact on a significant number of policyholders and insurance carriers.

    AIR Worldwide modeling firm in Boston said it is surveying the tornado damage and noted a statement from Georgia State Insurance Commissioner John Oxendine, who gave a very preliminary damage estimate of between $150 million to $200 million, most of it occurring at the Georgia World Congress Center.

    On late Monday, Mr. Oxendine issued a statement saying the insured losses reached an estimated $250 million.

    This past weekend saw also saw a huge construction accident with acrane toppling over in New York damaging seven buildings, but that event was not rated a cat by PCS.

    One tornado touched down in Atlanta on Friday night, wrecking office towers and causing millions of dollars in damage, part of a system that caused several deaths in Georgia and North Carolina.

    The Georgia Emergency Management Agency said the tornado that struck Friday night blew out windows and damaged roofs of dozens of buildings, including the CNN headquarters. About 107,000 customers were without power, according to Georgia Power, and hundreds were evacuated from damaged buildings.

    At least two people were killed and another 20 injured.

    There was significant damage reported from neighboring counties from the storm cell that affected the region. The agency said all portions of the state suffered damage, except west central and southwest Georgia.

    Up to 60 homes were affected in Bartow County, six of which were destroyed, and two schools were heavily damaged. Twenty homes were damaged in Floyd County, 10 of which were destroyed.

    In Fulton County, the agency reported 170 homes and public buildings were affected, but the extent of damage was not available. Thirty-six homes were impacted in Polk County, with six destroyed.

    Numerous other businesses reported damages throughout the state.

    By Sunday night the agency reported that 2,358 claims had been filed with insurers.

    Thousands were without power throughout counties touched by tornados in South Carolina also. There were numerous reports of roof damage and trees felled.

    The National Weather Service said that tornados that touched down in Georgia topped 150 mph winds.

    On Saturday in New York, a construction crane broke loose from its supports, killing up to six people, four of them construction workers who were raising the crane atop a high-rise building located at 2nd Avenue and 51st Street on the East side of Manhattan.

    The New York City Office of Emergency Management said 17 buildings in the area have been vacated, affecting 300 residents. Seven buildings sustained damage when the crane broke apart after hitting a building on 50th Street. At least five buildings sustained major damage and collapse, while the other two were still being inspected.

    Gary Kerney, assistant vice president of Property Claim Services, said, regarding the storms that hit Georgia and South Carolina, “We are evaluating the extent of damage in other areas from the storm system that spawned the tornado in downtown Atlanta on Friday.

    “We have reports of damage from severe weather in areas of the Southeast on Saturday into Sunday. PCS believes this is a separate storm system and we are evaluating reports from this region…”

    On the New York crane collapse he continued, “Regarding the crane collapse in New York City on Saturday, it is unlikely that the number of insured property damage claims emanating from that incident will trigger the assignment of a serial number. However, we are still reviewing information regarding the aftermath of the collapse and the extent of damage in the surrounding buildings.”

    This article was updated March 18 at 9 : 16 a .m.

    Marc Dubois
    Executive General Adjuster
    M.G.D. Claim Services Inc.
    "Your Commercial Claims Solution"
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    JohnB
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    03/29/2008 2:54 AM
    hello,Its 1131 pm in Seattle and the end of the eve for me. I have a few questions if ya all dont mind. I was invited here by a company thats been here 30 yrs in July of 06 due to the dec 14 storm. They nedded someone that understands the claims process and writes clean business. However the claims have slowed (I dont solicit ).I am interested in getting back towards family and friends(Ill,Ohio,In,NC,Fla The question is Ive been seeing articles on Georgia and South Carolina (my wifes area of her upbringing) and am interested in this area for reasons mentioned. What actually do you honestly believe is there and how accurate are the estimates Ive read. My friend in Fla said it isn't what he would be there for, an applicator said his brother isnt busy and I read to the contrary.

    ...With that said..I was invited to MN and said no because it was flooded by amatuers hired by storm companies. I have seen what a few of you said about the quality of the damage(does that make sense?) and am one to call it like I see it..if its marginal,forget it and felt that these idiot sales pups would end up irritating the adjusters with bogus claims which means at the end of the day I didnt want to be on the receiving end of a bad day.Besides I like to sleep at night knowing the roof that got replaced needed it. Sounds strange coming from a contractor but the years have taught me to view things as they are and it'll come back to ya tenfold.


    Thx in advance

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    Ray Hall
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    04/24/2008 11:47 AM

    Seems like several big hail storms going on in N. Texas, Baton Rouge from Tuesday night hail storm.

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    04/24/2008 12:55 PM

    Ray,  have heard the same about the north Texas and Baton Rouge areas.  I am central to both, being in north LA.  Any idea of what companies may be looking for CAT adjusters?  I never have a problem on hurricane CAT's, but can't seem to get a foot in on the hail storms.

    Thanks,

    Jim

     

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    Ray Hall
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    04/25/2008 4:12 PM

    The person who gave me this information is a busy adjuster for Pilot/Allstate.

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