ChuckDeatonLife Member  Senior Member Posts:1110  
| 04/29/2009 5:03 PM |
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Anyone who handles hail claims and climbs on residential roofs would do well to find and read the OSHA regulations.
Trusting your future to a complicated mechanical device when you are exhausted and under stress, just because your vehicle will not handle a proper ladder is tom foolery.
Professionals use professional equipment.
"Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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Tom TollModerator & Life Member Senior Member Posts:1865 
| 04/30/2009 1:06 PM |
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Roy, so glad your Dad is recovering. It is frightening to see anyone fall from a ladder and get injured. Your Dad was lucky. All ladders have a locking mechanism of sorts and any brand. One thing the adjuster or anyone else must do is check that locking mechanism prior to ascent. I would not have a telesteps if you gave it to me. Too many locking devices on the telesteps and too susceptible to failure. We will stick with our Little Giants and we do check the locking mechanisms every time.
Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
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hostCatAdjuster.org Founder Posts:709 
| 04/30/2009 10:21 PM |
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Thanks Tom, My Dad was not using a telesteps ladder it was an extension ladder and he went up it without making sure it was locked down. As you stated we need to always check and make the ladder is locked.
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| 05/08/2009 8:06 AM |
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Roy, I hope your Dad is much better now. Adjusters might want to review this discussion on OSHA fall protection rules: http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owa...p_id=13403 OSHA exempts workers who will be inspecting for a short period of time from fall protection requirements on the theory that rigging up would expose them to more danger than a quick inspection. OSHA is not going to protect us. We have to look out for ourselves. |
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Ray HallSenior Member Posts:2443 
| 05/08/2009 1:29 PM |
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Use some common logic. Walk around the house and see if anything has hail hits or splatter marks. If you see damage on the ground it MUST be on the roof and vise versa. The young salesman will tell you all the damage is at the ridge and if you do not climb the roof, you have not competant. I have never climbed a steep roof in my life and I never will. I have settled thousands of roof claims.... by getting as "close to them as I could". Never had a kick back. Left a storm one time when the big man said we had to take a photo from the ridge with our car in the background to get paid. This is why the satellite is good tool. Steep roofs are for trained steep teams, not folding ladder adjusters.
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okclarryd Veteran Member Posts:954
| 05/08/2009 9:58 PM |
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Some time back, and it's discussed in this thread, I had a choice of which "extendable" ladder to use. I already had a Telesteps and was becoming uncomfortable with it. Then, a co-worker was injured using his.
Long story short, I obtained an Xtend and Climb. I looked at one and actually used it and really checked it out. The latches are pretty much idiot proof (which means I can probably use it) and the construction is all welded or riveted with BIG rivets. It hasn't seen much use since I bought it but I thought I would pass this along.
By the way,..................it's rated at 300lb so this ol' fat boy can get on it without worrying about it's load rating.
Larry D Hardin
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HuskerCatVeteran Member Posts:762
| 05/08/2009 11:07 PM |
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Where can I look at one those, Larry? Tried a google & didn't locate. I'm only about a buck80, so the load isn't a factor (except for the way it's distributed) ...but I'm curious about the design/portability of the ladder. Is it similar to a Little Giant?
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| 05/09/2009 10:07 AM |
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http://www.xtendandclimb.com/ It's still a telescoping ladder, so i think many of the dangers of one are still present. I used one for a decent amount of scopes in OH and it was not bad. It is very light and felt study, i did not have any problems with it when i used it. I still prefer something with less points to fail, even if it is more heavy.
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okclarrydVeteran Member Posts:954
| 05/14/2009 11:06 PM |
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I found my Xtend & Climb at Home Depot. I've seen them in various stores throughout the US of A.
Another really good ladder for the money is the Costco which is available at Sams.
Larry D Hardin
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HuskerCatVeteran Member Posts:762
| 05/15/2009 11:01 PM |
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Thanks, Amart & Larry...had found it on the web in the meantime. Looks like it's easy on the back & pretty handy to fit into a trunk if you aren't a truck'n type, and have a boatload of ranch homes to inspect that don't require a taller ladder. Also good for those interior attic inspects for the winter ice dams and roof leaks. You can also use it to sneak back in late at night through the basement window after you told the wife you were working late...just have to dig a small hole to stand it up in. |
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| 08/12/2009 12:34 AM |
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I have seen those before they are retired ladders from deer stands in Georgia. LOL JERRY TAYLOR
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okclarrydVeteran Member Posts:954
| 08/13/2009 10:58 PM |
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I recently heard from a fellow former Hartford employee that several of their staffy cat adjusters had fallen using the" recommended" collapsible ladder, Telesteps. Now, I don't have personal knowledge of this but it came from a pretty darn good source.
I try to not be negative about anything or anyone in my postings, but...............
I have had a Telesteps collapse on me and I DO have personal knowledge of a Hartford adjuster that fell using a Telesteps as we were both deployed in the same town and I met him at the hospital. Broken arm and several scuffs. I think Hartford is still "recommending" the Telesteps to their adjusters.
Larry D Hardin
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Tom TollModerator & Life Member Senior Member Posts:1865
| 08/14/2009 11:27 AM |
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I know for fact that several telesteps have collapsed with adjusters ascending with them. I don't care for their latching mechanism and consider them questionable for safety. I know little giant is a little heavy and requires more storage room than telesteps, but they are certainly more safe. There again, you need to check the latch points for proper latching even with the little giant. I think we need to create check lists in our minds when working on roofs. We need to make sure our ladders are in a safe position on the roof, properly locked and tied off if necessary. I know, as a long time pilot, that check lists are vital to safety. Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
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| 08/15/2009 4:14 PM |
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FYI, about a week or two ago, Costco had a 17 foot Little Giant (MegaLite) for $170. We go a couple for our office and threw away the telesteps.
Gimme a bottle of anything and a glazed donut ... to go! (DLR)
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ChuckDeatonLife Member Senior Member Posts:1110
| 08/17/2009 10:55 AM |
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Just my opinion, but it looks to me like anybody who uses a fold up or telescoping ladder is going to get hurt eventually. For day in and day out, 7 day a week professional use get a solid ladder.
"Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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| 10/12/2009 6:01 PM |
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Check out this ladder rack. It locks your ladder in place, upright, behind your vehicle. It's called the Ladder CATy and is available on www.claimsadjusters411store.com.
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| 11/26/2009 2:47 PM |
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The proper way to hang Xmas Lights.
1) Tie 2 ladders together
2) Put it up to the house backwards
3) Have Carlos your lawn maintenance guy climb the ladder with a sting of lights and a stapler
4) Have Carlos drop the stapler on your awning freaking you out and calling the whole thing off.
Mind you - this was after the first attempt to tie the ladders together resulted in a boomerang shaped ladder when they tried to raise it. I knew I would find something entertaining to do this afternoon.
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Tom TollModerator & Life Member Senior Member Posts:1865
| 11/27/2009 1:47 PM |
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Now there is an excellent way to see if your hospitalization policy is a good one, or your burial policy. I would never recommend anyone to try that stunt. Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
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olderthendirt Member Posts:160
| 11/27/2009 2:49 PM |
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At least you would have two ladder manufacturers to sue. I bet neither lader has a warning specific to this event.
Life is like a sewer, what you get out of it depends on what you put in it
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Amarillo Adjuster Guest Posts:4
| 11/22/2011 5:34 PM |
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I read this entire thread and apparantly no one has ever heard of a Stapleton folding wood ladder. I have worn out 3 and am on my 4th. They are heavy, but that is a plus. Plus, electricity does not travel down wood.
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