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AllCatMan

USA
39 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2003 :  23:04:27  Show Profile
I am certainly glad I did not find this site befor I got into the business. I would have probably run like all get out. I read the getting started thread.
I wish you kids could play nice.
Why must there be such cut throat preditors waiting for someone to post and then attack.
I like a good heated debate, and even agreeing to disagree but when it gets to personal attacks it has gone too far. If we must argue lets at least not do it in a thread like "getting started" wow that says alot for us . I would like to see this resource, CADO, grow and continue to be a place for information, friendship, bragging, streching the truth, letting off steam....whatever it is for you, but not a place for a few to show there south sides. Do you think the sponsors want to be a part of that? If all the others quit posting here in fear of ridicule or shear disgust, do you think Roy, or anyone else for that matter, will keep our little club house open??? I read this site daily, and enjoy the info found here but I for one, thick skinned as I am, am on the verge of saying adios, I am just one poster, but how many more have quietly just stopped??? How many others feel the way I do???
Maybe Roy can create another area for these attacks, CADO'S BOXING RING, take off the gloves and get ready to get bloody. Or perhaps you could take it into the chat rooms, maybe that would encourage folks to go in to that area to see who bloodied whos nose. At least there at the end of the night it would be gone and not left for the archive to record it for history.
I guess what am trying to say is please tone it down, no more personal attacks, or ridicule. Lets try to play nice.

Was it Rodney King that said "Can't we all just get along"

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okclarryd

USA
106 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  06:37:00  Show Profile
I don't think Rodney said that. But I bet he was thinkin' it!

I agree one hundred per cent with you on the personal attack thing. Some of these threads have become so polluted and the focus changed so drastically that it's hard to remember what the thread started out as.

With some talk about a "union" or "professional organization", I don't think I want to belong if I have to become what some folks already are. If these "experts" are so self-sufficient, why do they need a "union"? When I find the kitchen heat becomes excessive, I can find the door on my own.
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CCarr

Canada
1200 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  07:49:33  Show Profile
Michael has made me realize what it is that is subconsciously pulling me away from CADO. Many times I've said that debate and discussion are healthy, even in disagreement. But, when it gets to personal attacks and silly things unrelated to the subject or thread, it all becomes a waste of time.

The last few days, the negative tones, unprofessional comments, and silly things that don't belong in these threads; have overtaken far too much of CADO.

Yes Mike, I feel the way you do. If I am reluctant to post anything, for concern of what response I may get, what is the point in bothering? If I have to talk myself into contributing or commenting on a topic, why bother?

I opened up CADO this morning, and aside from this thread, there was considerable other activity last night, and far too much of it was ridicule, or rude, personal chat room type stuff, or just plain negative dribble.

If that is what the majority of the people participating want, they are welcome to it, but I derive no enjoyment, knowledge or satisfaction from that; and I will continue to drift away and maybe find another venue related to claims or some other interests.

As for professionalism or a professional organization, maybe I am being proven wrong in my beliefs that it could exist, should exist, or would ever happen. With the amount of unjustified attacks against people in these threads, and other unprofessional dribble; it certainly is not a professional discussion environment that would ever foster professional growth or be the genesis of a professional organization.

We should be able to ramble along in an unsupervised environment to share information and help each other tangibly and intangibly. However it is obvious these forums need supervision, and in my opinion more pro-active management and supervision of whatever direction the ownership of CADO and its moderators want to take; relative to its or their goals. What is the point of a moderator coming along the next day and removing "words" that a moderator may find improper? The negative or inappropriate tone or uselessness of the post is still there.

If it is the intent that CADO exist as an informal and personal chat room type environment, with few (if any) firm parameters regarding topic focus and the extent of permitted information; then there you have it - as it exists today. Enjoy it if that is your thing, but it is not my thing.
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danmeler

25 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  08:35:49  Show Profile
Aside from the sporadic rantings of people like me, CADO and the Forums are a much needed part of our industry. I applaude the people who have made this website what it is today and thank them for their dedication.
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DEMIGOD

99 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  08:43:41  Show Profile
Well once again here I am posting, and I want to bring up something that heppened yesterday. I am doing claims in Columbus Ohio and went last night to finalize a roof replacement that was bought by State Farm after a reinspection. The time it took from the initial inspection the resulted in a denial and the re-inspection was about three weeks. During this time my home owner did some research about roofers and insurance claims. So I'm sitting down at the table last night going over the clients revamped ins. scope and she begins to pull some paperwork out of a file that she's compiled. Guess what I saw! She pulled out several papers stapled together and the CADO heading was on it! Yup she's been to this sight reading throught the threads. I was like wow, cool you've been to CADO, I told her I visit also. She proceeded to say that she's left with the distinct impression that Adjusters on a whole are mean, egotistical, and know it all's. And was suprised that people who post on this sight act in such manner. HINT HINT Folks maybe it's time to look in the mirror and evaluate who your comming across to poeple. My first posting resulted in a holier then thou attitude towards me and frankly it left a bad taste in my mouth becuase of it. The over all tone of the threads on this forum are negative and condesending.

And those who run this site obviously don't care about it either as I personally sent an email in regards to how I was treated, with no confirmation that my email was even read! so pfft!
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Ghostbuster

476 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  11:21:11  Show Profile
Well, my friend, (and all the rest of the world out there including the known cosmos), when an argrument steers in the direction of 'I don't like your attitude', then you have just won the argument because the other party can no longer argue the issues. For the sake of the general public, this site and our postings come from real, live human beings who for the most part have been there, have done that, and have the proverbial T-shirt to prove it. We are not robots. We cheerfully acknowledge that fact and revel in the many ways we are not politically correct and are often socially unacceptable in our manners.

That means we are what we are. That also means that we welcome anyone who visits here and wishes to join in the group. There is always room for one more in the clubhouse. If any timid soul out there thinks we are a bunch of mouthy know-it-alls, that soul may be right. We, as adjusters, are paid to be right and do right and save the day like the cavalry charging over the hill.

So, Demigod the Contractor, we are more than comfortable with our public relations image whether you like it or not.
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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  11:31:49  Show Profile
Some thoughts. Most of us in this business are independent minded rebellious old cuss's (what is the female of old cuss?). We know what we are and we choose the rewards and risks of this business. This site is a major source of information and discussion. It is also a place where we let of steam and throw out ideas and grips. I suspect this lady read this site with a firm opinion about adjusters. We are be cantankorus but for the most part not mean.
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Johnd

USA
110 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  12:09:50  Show Profile
Mark, I believe the word you are looking for is "cussettes". Hope this helps.

John Durham
sui cuique fingunt fortunam
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CatDaddy

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  13:18:33  Show Profile
Well said GB and Mark Dirt. I ditto your remarks.

We have all gotten our feathers ruffled for one reason or another at one time here at CADO. We defend what we believe in because it is our livelihood. We don’t all get there in the same manner but our goals are the same.

I have been guilty of stirring the pot in the past and I will probably take another paddle at it in the future based on historical data. I am sure some arrows will come my way as well. Does all this make us bad people or bad adjusters? I don’t think so. A little revolution is good every now and then. I realize that is gets out of hand sometimes but it’s the nature of this type of forum and the diversity of its members.

No one should be afraid to post on this forum. All ideas are welcome and open to debate. Chances are, what you are wanting to discuss has already been talked about at one time or another. CADO is filled with lots of experienced people with lots to share. If you have an idea, stick it out there. MOST people who post here know when they are going to push someone’s buttons or step on toes so don’t act all surprised when you compose something controversial and ole’ dragon’s breath comes a knock’n. CADO members make the Comanches look like Cub Scouts when it comes to defending their turf but its all in good fun and the spirit of sharing information. Kinda like teaching someone to read by shoving a dictionary down their throat!

I think I was rambling. Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit sniffing glue.

CD
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jlombardo

USA
212 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  14:00:39  Show Profile
Hate to admitt it....but I agree with Kittydady....I mean Catdaddy......
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CatDaddy

USA
310 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  14:38:31  Show Profile
Thanks Lombardy! Now join me in singing the CADO National Anthem........."I like big butts and I can not lie. You uther bruthers can deny...."

CD
(aka SirMixAlot)
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Barry19

8 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  14:50:51  Show Profile
i agree...being new in the business, i come here to read, learn and try to get some idea of what im getting myself into. there does seem to be much negative talk regarding new people. why? everyone has to start off somewhere....
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Janice Toll

USA
40 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  15:23:21  Show Profile
I am one of those independent minded old cussettes Mark mentioned - just ask Tom. I agree with some of what everyone has posted here.

I think Michael's idea of a "CADO Boxing Ring Area" is an excellent idea. Then, for those seeking information and not ranting, personal attacks, etc., we could skip that area instead of having to sort through all the meaningless drivel to find what is worthwhile.

Janice R. Martin-Toll
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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  16:46:54  Show Profile
Barry, most of us paid a lot of due's (try filing for your first 6 months before they even give you a chair) and so do many of the newbes here. But (and this is a disturbing trend where we now have instant experts in all industries) some know it all when they arrive. They do get jumped on. Barry throw your comments and ideas out, you may get shot down , poked at but must of us will attack your ideas not you. You will find knowledge in the answers, and if your are to become a true road warrior, you will need a thick skin, we are glad to help you grow one. If you can take to travel the hours the loneliness, that bad food and the down time, this is a great and wonderfull life.
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Barry19

8 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  17:00:09  Show Profile
indeed..i have learned quite a bit from everyones comments. i can understand the frustration that you might have listening to someone new rant and rave and they have only been out once or twice. either way, its sounds like a helluva interesting way to live.
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olderthendirt

USA
370 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2003 :  17:05:25  Show Profile
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Edited by - olderthendirt on 11/06/2003 18:48:46
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