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RROBBY
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 Posted - 02/13/2003 : 07:40:50
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| Smoke damage to the underside of decking. I have a large attic area (4000 sf). About 2000SF will require replacement due to the amount of damage to the top cords and decking. However we have about 2,000sf that has very heavy smoke damage to the underside. The rosen from the wood has been cooked out of about 1,000sf but no alligatoring of the wood. How do we clean the underside of the decking and top cords to pre-fire conditions? This is a $400,000.00 home. Help we have a (company general adjuster) we are having to deal with. |
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JimF
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2003 : 07:45:46
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Are you handling the claim as a contractor or an adjuster? I ask this question because of your comment of having to deal with a company general adjuster.
What is the position of the company general adjuster on the issues you are requesting advice on?
What is the policy type and policy limits and what was the cause of fire/smoke?
I think more information is needed before providing any answers. |
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RROBBY
USA
7 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2003 : 13:42:52
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| I AM A ADJUSTER. HOWEVER MYSELF THE GENERAL ADJUSTER DO NOT AGREE ON THE WAY TO COMPLETE THE REPAIRS. WE HAVE A TX HOB POLICY. AS INDICATED ABOVE THE POLICY AMOUNT IS $400,000.00. WE HAD A FLAME DUE TO ELECTRIC PROBLEMS IN THE ATTIC |
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JimF
USA
1014 Posts |
Posted - 02/13/2003 : 19:24:43
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Which one of you is in charge of the claim: you or the general adjuster? Why is there a general adjuster involved on this claim?
How does the general adjuster want to complete the repairs? What is the total cost for his method?
How do you want to complete the repairs? What is the total cost for your method?
How does the insured want the repairs completed? And what is the total cost for their method?
How does the insured's contractor want to complete the repairs? What is the total cost for their method? |
Edited by - JimF on 02/13/2003 19:29:10 |
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Tom Toll
USA
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Posted - 02/13/2003 : 20:14:08
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Most fire codes require replacement of the wood, any wood, that has a 1/16 inch of char or more. If this is plywood, all affected sheets with over the maximum char will have to be replaced, along with any rafters that have excessive char. Some resin loss is acceptable and will not affect the life of the wood. All sooted areas should be sprayed with aluminum oxide paint.
When making a post, I suggest you type it in MS Word or Wordperfect first, then spell check and grammar check it. If you are a General Adjuster, your spelling and grammar needs to be accurate. |
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Admin
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Posted - 02/15/2003 : 08:37:27
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This may be good place for the visitors with a restoration background to jump in and offer some feedback.
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How do we clean the underside of the decking and top cords to pre-fire conditions?
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katadj
USA
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Posted - 02/15/2003 : 15:34:04
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An issue that has NOT been addressed is the smoke odor that will remain, IF ALL of the un-replaced wood is not completely sealed.
Each building code is different and the local codes will have to be examined to assure compliance.
If, as you state, the rosin has been affected, you may need a wood sample, or several, sent to a lab for analysis. The plywood decking, in all likely-hood will have sustained some de-lamination from the excessive heat. Surely, if the covering is composition shingles, they are severely affected and will have to be replaced.
Suggest you post some photographs of the damages, for trained eyes to review, answer some of the questions posed and you can expect some additional replies to your inquiry.
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katadj
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 02/15/2003 : 15:45:03
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Question for the poster:
Is this a stick built or a truss constructed framing?
Is the decking plywood, or OSB, what thickness, what span between rafters, H clips installed?
If a truss constructed frame, then the truss engineer will have to re-certify the trusses.
Suggest that a local structural engineer be engaged to make the call.
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mameluke
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2003 : 20:51:39
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Seal??? What is it about "encapsulation" that makes most want to jump on the "seal it up" bandwagon? If you want to remove smoke odors, source removal is the first place to start. You do this by cleaning and ocassionally sanding. Stop sealing it in...it doesn't last forever and you may not know it, but sooner or later you'll do it with a product that induces allergic reactions in the occupant(s). Go to ascr.org and find a member of the national institute of disaster restoration.
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Bob Huddleston
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