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KileAnderson
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 Posted - 04/18/2004 : 10:46:03
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You can't tell me that a 19 year old who grew up in America has never heard of the dangers of alcohol abuse and drunk driving. It's everywhere. It isn't Coors' responsibility to tell everyone that if you get drunk you shouldn't drive. Everyone knows that.
I can't believe you made the statement "What is wrong with spreading liability around." EVERYTHING is wrong with it. The only person that killed this boy is the boy himself. No one poured the beer down his throat against his will and then stuck him in the car and aimed it at a tree. He did it all. Why doesn't she also sue the company that made the car? The company that made the gas that was in the car? How about the city for putting a street light out there where some drunk kid could run into it? They should have reasonably forseen the stupidity of this kid and done something to prevent it. Why doesn't she sue the company that made the light pole. If it wasn't so darned hard then maybe he wouldn't have died when he hit it at 90mph. Why doesn't she sue the tire companny, the asphault company that made the materials that went into the road. Wait a minute. Why doesn't she sue herself for not raising her son properly and teaching him to be responsible and not get drunk and drive his girlfriends car into a light pole? Where the hell does it stop? The only person that killed this kid was the kid himself. He is 100% responsible and he paid the ultimate price for his own stupidity. Darwinism in action.
As far as Coors advertising goes, the only ads I can remember are about the Rocky Mountains and cold filtering and the beer being delivered from the factory to the store in a refrigerated truck. The company president is seen walking through the mountains in a ski vest and jeans reminding us to drink responsibly. Yeah, that's glamourizing alchoholism. |
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olderthendirt
USA
370 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:20:55
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| Really sit down and watch beer ads for a while. Do I think Coors is liable, no. But a few law suits might cause them to change, nah won't happen. Cost of a few lawyers doesn't exceed the $s spent buy underage drinkers. There is some liability to the girl friend (assuming she knew or should have know he had no license). Did the mother supply the beer. If so then she is also liable. What would be a fair settlement, mayby the cost of the funeral. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:25:51
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| What difference does it make if they do glamourize drinking. There's this little thing called the fist amendment. They have the right to do that. If the kid is too stupid to know he shouldn't get behind the wheel when he is drunk that isn't the beer company's fault. And by the way. Why doesn't a 19 year old have a driver's license? Could it be that he was a bad seed to begin with and lost his driving priveleges? |
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alanporco
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:31:02
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olderthendirt: I mostly agree with Kile's post. Coors is certainly not responsible for the accident. The only person who might share culpability is the girl if she knowingly let a drunk take her car. Bartenders have been held responsible for continuing to sell drinks to one who obviously hammered and then goes out and does harm to someone.
As to the point about advertising glorifying anything. Of course it does. Based on your theory, rape victims should sue Victoria's Secret because they use sex to sell their wares. |
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Ghostbuster
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Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:32:58
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| Kile is absolutely RIGHT! The Fist Amendment is one that should be used far more often that it is these days. It wasn't that long ago the the Fist Amendment was the undisputed arbriter of any issue that had reached an intellectual impasse. I believe the the use of the Fist Amendment on the likes of Roger Poe and the members of the Trial Lawyers Assoociation would do a world of good. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 11:42:58
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| GB, the Trial Lawyers Association has every right to express their views. What I think they shouldn't have a right ot is the process of legalized extortion. Far too many lawyers have followed this path to riches. Have you seen the advertisements on late night TV for the ambulance chasers as well as the Law offices of James Sokolove (legal work may be done by others in the firm or other firms affiliated with James Sokolove, LLC.)? These guys just troll the ignorant masses for anything they can sue for. That should be against any bar associations code of ethics...Hah! Did you read what I just wrote. I even make myself laugh sometimes. Lawyers with a code of ethics, that's funny. |
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alanporco
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 12:10:07
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| The Trial Lawyers Association - now there's one that surely fits in this thread. They are one of the major reasons insurance costs are going up. The TLA held their convention at Caesar's Palace in 1970. The theme of their convention was medical malpractice, the deluge of suits started about 2-3 years later. The theme of their 1975 convention was products liability, those suits began flourishing in 1977. TLA does have a code of ethics modeled after the feeding habits of sharks. |
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Tom Toll
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2004 : 21:00:55
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| I could not even start to tell you how I feel about the legal profession as a whole. Because of ridiculous law suits in aviation, they almost put some aircraft manufacturers out of business. I love flying and aviation and have since I was born. My Mother went into labor after my Father took her up in a Piper J-2 and did a spin over the Pacific, near Santa Monica. He did this after the Dr. kiddingly told him that Mother needed to go into labor and that he should take her for a plane ride and spin it. He had to land on Santa Monica beach and take her to Santa Monica Hospital where all 13#s of me was born. Having been in the aviation adjusting business for 25 years, I could tell you some stories that would make your hair stand on end. Not only should the attorney's be blamed, but the jurors who allowed some of the monsterous judgements to go to fruition on, in my professional opinion, frivilous and totally ridiculous lawsuits. I will give you some examples at a later date. |
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KileAnderson
USA
875 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 21:08:26
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| The biggest part of the problem with juries is alot of knowledgeable and intelligent people do all they can to get out of jury duty and the ones who are left over get weeded out by the plaintiff's attorneys. We don't want anyone who knows anything or can think on a jury. That wouldn't be fair. |
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khromas
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2004 : 21:14:54
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Really get your ire up and read Grisham's book "The King of Torts".
I had many fellow students in law school who dreamed of that kind of life. My wife left an ad agency last year who specialized in all those commercials you see for the ambulance chasers. She felt like she needed disinfected after meetings with them.
That kind of attorney is what made me decide I would never practice even after all that time and money spent getting the JD. What was crazy was that I actually wanted to use it in politics but they are even lower on the food chain than lawyers!
(Damn, Tom! 13#s? Your poor mom!) |
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alanporco
USA
112 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 21:42:35
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My favorite story about frivolous law suits involved a kid in Little League. The parents sued because their son missed a pop up fly and it hit him in the eye. The parents decided to sue because their son normally played in the outfield, but the coach decided to play him in the infield during the All-Star game. First of all, what happened to the assumption of risk when one plays a sport? Then, didn't this kid ever see a fly ball in the outfield?
The case settled before it went to trial because the carrier determined it would be cheaper to pay the parents $25,000 rather face a jury in CA. The kicker is that both of the parents were lawyers. |
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JimF
USA
1014 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 21:47:03
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| Would it be fair to say that sometimes that's the way the ball bounces? |
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katadj
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2004 : 21:54:08
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AH, Yes "The King of Torts" is an outstanding read. One of Grishom’s best, and I have read them all.
Here’s a lawyer that quit practicing, cause he found more value in telling stories that have some real meaning.
It probably has a place of significant position on the walls of every Plaintiff Attorneys Office wall.
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