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Linda
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 Posted - 02/02/2004 : 12:58:47
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Linda
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 13:07:08
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Here's something else that the Big FIG is doing. If a house has galvanized plumbing lines for incoming water, they are refused a policy. This means that houses built before the mid 1970's are being redlined regardless of their condition. The underwriters want only copper pressure lines in a Risk here in Texas.
Ghostbuster
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Linda
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 13:09:45
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katadj-original poster
Posted - 02/01/2004 : 15:00:32
Well now, if they want that they better be sure the copper lines are of the proper type.
If they have type "M", (heating pipe, low pressure) or type "L", inside water pipe they will be in a world of hurt.
The only type copper pipe used underground is type "K" which is designed as a direct bury or soft flexible.
These guys are making uninformed decisions as to what they require.
Galvanized schedule 40 pipe will last, (depending on the soil conditions) perhaps 100 years or more, while schedule 80 can last 200 years.
And what do they think the copper pipe ties into in the street?
It AIN'T Copper.
What brain child thought this one up?
Nevermind, it smacks of ignornance to the highest degree.
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Linda
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 13:25:05
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CCarr-original poster
Posted - 02/01/2004 : 18:11:42
Is Ghost not referring to the supply lines within the dwelling that run through the older houses?
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Linda
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 13:29:29
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Ghostbuster-original poster
Posted - 02/01/2004 : 19:04:55
You got it, my maple leaf pal! The Ghostbuster IS talking about the standard pressurized plumbing lines that supply water to the toilet you just flushed, not the drain lines.
I view this has a form of redlining by discriminating against house built prior to the advent of developers using copper in tract developments. I think this may be in the early/mid 1970's. I have seen tract houses built in 1971 with galvanized, and I remember my tract house built in 1974 has having copper. If you can help me pin down the year most of the tract builders went to copper, I would appreciate it. Also, does anyone know when breakers replaced fuses in houses? And, when was the old 'knob & tube' replaced with Romex or it's bundled and wrapped predecessor?
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Linda
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Posted - 02/02/2004 : 13:32:48
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JimF-original poster
Posted - 02/02/2004 : 02:13:20
Since the topic has shifted to indoor plumbing, I thought some of you might find this article from The Washington Post of interest.
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NC Seeks to Wipe Out Outhouses
Under a new program called the Small Town Environment Program, or STEP, North Carolina hopes to upgrade their over 43,000 homes that still lack adequate indoor plumbing. The State officials suspect that there may be as many as 200,000 homes in NC still using outhouses or what is called straight-piping. Straight-piping is the term used for homes that pipe their 'blackwater' (the polite term for raw waste) directly into nearby rivers and streams. While outhouses are still legal in the state, straight-piping is not.
NC is the first state to undertake such a program. Gov. James B. Hunt Jr. has declared eliminating outhouses, that embarrassing remnant of the past, one of his top priorities.
NC is not alone, the 1990 Census showed Virginia has about 46,000 homes that lack adequate indoor plumbing; Florida , 28,000; Alabama has more than 27,500; Mississippi has about 22,000; and Tennessee more than 32,000. This problem is not confined to southern states, California reported 69,000 such homes, and New York state, 67,000 .
Indoor bathrooms are a major symbol of prosperity. As late as 1950, one-forth of American homes lacked indoor plumbing.
... ... from The Washington Post, 25 April 1999
http://www.toiletology.com/news.shtml#NC
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mcaldwell
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Posted - 02/03/2004 : 09:19:22
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| It is a shame to attack outdoor facilities. Indoor bathrooms are to blame for the increase in water claims in the United States. Homes with no indoor plumbing should be encouraged. Less exposure for the carriers |
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Gale
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Posted - 02/04/2004 : 01:58:12
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| I see this thread is starting to get personal. Those with experience know a straight pipe will not clog nearly as often as a crooked one. If they go after the porches as well that will just be too much. |
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