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Steve Ebner
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2000 - 10:14 pm:   

Tom and Tom,

The words of wisdom are appreciated.
Been There
Posted on Monday, April 24, 2000 - 9:25 am:   

Randy is Jr... don't confuss with Sr.
very different individuals!
Vince Tabor
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2000 - 9:34 am:   

Bob B.

Tell it like it is Bob, in my opinion you are an
adjuster of integrity.

P. S. We all fall into bed after a day "with the files". Best of luck Bob
bob b
Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2000 - 12:37 am:   

This is for randy---if you are the same randy that worked georges for an alabama co that we all know... i have a hard time believing that you made that in your pocket already... i have been out here south of dallas since late march closed 50 claims 25 or more over 20k and not made that much.... however i am slow with 100% customer satisfaction and excellent team leader reviews ... if this is not that randy sorry but most of us earn our money the hard way and dont shout to the world look at me look at me. I also have 55 more claims somewhere in the process and hope to be wrapped up by the end of the month... the compensation will be well worth it... but the satisfied customers makes it TRULY WORTH DOING!!! yea i shouted sorry roy good night i am tired.
Tom Toll (Tom)
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2000 - 11:45 pm:   

Tom, I fear that some peoples ego and bragging rights are more important than those of us who would like to see more benefits, income, and security for our families. You are right. You don't post your income on an international web page. This is what hurts the ones who are trying to bring integrity and pride to this profession. No, one does not make this every two weeks. In 1997 many adjusters darn near starved to death, because there was no work. Many trainees left this profession to find dependable work. The old paycheck every two weeks looked good to someone who had heard how much some bragging cat adjusters elucidated, yet the trainees couldn't. This will happen again, so I hope the person who put on the bragging post is stuffing his money in CD'S, as it may happen this year. This profession has no guarantees. The vendors can give us no guarantees. In fact, if I were a vendor and saw the mans name who made that post, I would be very hesitant to hire him. This profession is not about money, its about pride, professionalism, integrity, knowledge, and brotherhood. With the aforementioned in place, the pay check comes in.
Tom Joyce (Tomj)
Posted on Friday, April 21, 2000 - 1:43 pm:   

Its always nice to pick up a paycheck after a few months off. Now do you really think is does any good to broadcast that you made whatever thousands of dollars in two weeks. People see that, espically they way it was put on the bulletin board and they think that that happens every two weeks. Will we never learn?
Don Elkinton
Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2000 - 9:43 pm:   

Thanks for taking us to school, Cecelia.
Santa
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2000 - 7:28 pm:   

Bark! Bark! As you see on some of these post ( above and below) there seems to be no Humble Fools here. Like old dad said one time "The sun doesn't shine in the same dog's a$$ all the time" Be careful people! God bless! Get it?
Paul B.
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2000 - 9:07 pm:   

It is actually very simple. I will not look in your pockets, so don't go looking in mine.
These last posting need to be saved and posted every so often.
Cecelia
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2000 - 3:47 pm:   

I have just spoken to a very close friend of mine who is a staff adjuster for one of the three major companies. His job is to handle CAT claims or to supervise Independents during a CAT that can't be handled by the number of staff CAT people employed by his company.

He and I have had some frank conversations about IA compensation vs. expenses etc. However, this week he has been field riding with adjusters who work for a certain vendor. Everyone of them, without fail, has gotten in to the car and begun, unbidden, to brag about how much they made last year or how much in taxes they paid (to indicate what their income would've been).

Does this endear us to the staff adjuster (who, btw, may be knocking down around $100k withOUT the expenses that we have?) for whom we work? Does it make us appear professional? Does it make a staff adjuster want to work with us? The answer to all of these questions is NO!

This staff adjuster will never agree, unless unable to find anyone else to work, to hire another adjuster from this company. It doesn't matter who this company is. This is simply a word of warning to us all. NEVER reveal your income.
Tom Toll
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2000 - 1:03 am:   

Catadj2, very well said. Work and help others should not only be a concept, but a goal for all of us to work toward. Janice and I have never turned down or hesitated to help another adjuster, old or trainee. It makes one feel good to help another, particularily in this field. We need to help each other if we want to survive. Company and Vendor bashing is certainly not a survivable answer. Helping each other is. Everyone has a choice as to who to work for.
Concerned2
Posted on Tuesday, April 04, 2000 - 12:52 am:   

catadj2--that is a great analogy and some excellent advice. That says it all.
catadj2@hotmail
Posted on Monday, April 03, 2000 - 11:04 pm:   

When I go fishing and bring in a couple of keepers
... never - never do I explain how I caught my fish, or where the fish were caught, and never brag on my catch,... because someday I would like to go fishing again and would like a nice place to catch big fish and not have everyone on top of my fishing hole...

Being a catatrophe adjuster is a lot like fishing,... I would like a couple of big keepers and not everyone working on top of me,... and not too many adjusters located in my spot. And I want everyone to have a few keepers,... while helping others and showing them how this is done.

If everyone would handle their catastrophe assignments like fishing... take what you can handle, allow some for everyone else, don't brag about your work, keep your mouth shut, allow everyone a chance to catch a couple of good files, help you fellow adjuster from "drowning"...."don't make waves and splash others"... and most of all be Friendly and enjoy your work.
We would all have a great time and maybe make more money...
daBear
Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2000 - 8:55 am:   

This is a cycle that repeats itself about every four or five years. The companys staff up and then after a few storms realize that although the severities have gone down slightly, the lawsuits have gone up and it takes more staff to settle the same amount of claims as they don't work as hard as we do.

When it takes more time, it costs more money and then the bean counters do another study and decide that IA's are really more cost effective. This too is a cycle that SF started. When they do something, everyone else does it to. That is why so many of the carriers now expect us to spend our money and time taking a test to work their claims. Because SF did it.

I whish they would crawl back into their hole. The world was better without them using IA's at all. The rules are different for them anyway as they are self re-insured.

You guys are right though, big mouth or big ego = little brain.

And, know before you go!
flash
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2000 - 4:29 pm:   

Nobody, GOOD point and well taken
NoBody
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2000 - 12:34 pm:   

Santa - Please check your Equation. I think maybe you made a mathmatical miscalculation this way:
Staff - Independents = Hate. Should it not read:
Staff - Independents = Staff? If you take the Independents away then you have only the remainder left which is Staff. Try this one:
Staff + Independents * Storm Damage = Work
Is that not what we all look for in the end - Work
Concerned2
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2000 - 10:34 am:   

I couldn't agree more! You see these guys bragging to staff people on every storm and you can warn them but they just won't shut up and keep a low profile. It is just as unwise to brag on the internet. The fact is there hasn't been much to boast about in recent years, we are lucky if we can even survive.
THE PHANTOM
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2000 - 10:18 am:   

SANTA:
A BIG 10-4 ON YOUR POST. TALK AND BRAG HAS RUINED OUR BUSINESS! REASON I HAVE TO FLIP BURGERS PART OF THE TIME.
Santa
Posted on Saturday, April 01, 2000 - 12:08 am:   

AH! Yes! Big car(truck,suv) Big Money! Big Ego. BRAG! BRAG! Reasons for a better fee schedule. Some things should be left alone. The smart ones in the group understand what i mean. The Equation
Staff - Independents = Hate. Silence is golden sometimes. All is not what it seems. (motel,car,food,computer,software,16 hr work Days 7 days a week,Etc.) Some people need to shut up. Its already tuff!

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