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Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2000 - 10:30 am:   

Mr String, if I may add until we as IA's and support staff can get back to the point where when the file was turned into the company, and there is enough confidence that all that has to be done is the check cut to settle the claim, there is some work to be done. Unfortunatly over the years service standards were adjusted to reflect and benifit from lower fee schedules. Hence if all your getting is an estimate and that you can get for free, why pay an "appraiser". I believe that we are to the point that all involved realize something for nothing, is still nothing.
David String
Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 10:44 pm:   

To Tom Toll:

As President of Carolina Claims Service in South Carolina, my CAT Director, Chuck Burkett and myself would like to offer any assistance in the planning of any convention, program, seminar, etc. you intend to hold.

My hat goes out to you and Roy, plus the rest of the staff for the vision you have for the organization. A good leader does not care if 100 people attend or 5 people attend as long as there is a vison, a correct business plan and the plan is executed.

What leaders look for are professionals who have the same common goals to carry out the mission. I feel this profession needs more claims professionals who understand what it takes in today's society and claims atmosphere to succeed in this profession. I feel the more we communicate, educate, and train, the better chance we have to eliminate all the DRP's etc. I personally feel the adjuster himself/herself have shot themself in their foot causing companies to look elsewhere for solutions to their problems, which included using other vendors than the I/A's.

I will promise, no matter where the convention or meeting is held, Chuck Burkett or myself will attend. We depend on your organization and want to be a part to insure we have the proper resouces available to complete with the the big boys. The true professional will find a way to attend a good seminar, convention or meeting.

Typically, anyone who starts a new business or organization has a clear vision and then needs to bring together the people needed to meet or exceed the particular goals. He/she does not care where the meeting is held, just as long as it is held. He/she does not care who attends as long as those which attend will communicate and make it a better organization. He/she does not care what the topics are as long as there are topics which create interaction among those who attend.

Good luck and let us know if we can assist.
Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 10:08 am:   

Gale perfect post. it's nice to see a posting from the heart.

Guys and Gals,
It's like my dad said, " If everyone waited for the perfect time to have children, there wouldn't be any children."

Roy, your'e baby sure is growing up fast.
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Wednesday, March 15, 2000 - 1:05 am:   

Warning – Long Post Please Skip if you are inclined to not like long post by me. Over look anything that may appear like a commercial for PowerClaim or any other product.

Enough energy is being spent to get CADO organized if it could be focused. I know it is easy to get excited about what someone else has spent years of their life as well as their own money to crate. I think I can feel some of Roy must be felling about right now.

To dream of something, to work for that dream, to take away time from your wife and children for that dream as well as spending money to make the dream happen is no small thing. It changes one forever. There is only one person that can decide what the next step is to be and that is Roy.

Roy has created a wonderful and powerful tool to advance the industry that he loves. I know he wants to do more and more with CADO and he will without question. My heart goes out to him for because he knows his heart’s intentions and it is easy to get distracted and disoriented when everyone jumps on your bandwagon making a lot of noise.

In no why am I saying any post is incorrect in its intent. It is just hard for one to think with so much noise. Personally I like to make noise but when it comes time to decide major issues I like to be alone in a very quiet place so I can hear myself think. Don’t always get it but I still like it.

If CADO is to become more than a great web site Roy knows it is going to take the help of many others. The home page already reflects that Roy as accepted this as a fact.

My continuing experience in taking Hawkins Research Inc from a one man band to becoming international in sales is something some may not want to read so please do not. For those that think CADO will become what everyone expects it to become in the next couple months or years have another thought coming based on my experience. CADO will not follow the same cycle as Hawkins Research has but all organizations evolve over years not overnight.

For about the first 4 years it was just me. Did not make a lot of money but I really enjoyed it. For the next 4 years I lived with the headaches that most new employers manage to create by themselves or with the help of others. Moneys were expected from people every where it seemed.

Then came the realization that my dream was much bigger than my pocketbook. That lead to incorporating and sharing the of my dream with investors. This was something that I was not really ready to do at a mental level just yet but I had little choice after taking the investors money. I had to ‘share the power’ and that took a while, more than a few months to say the least but I evolved for the sake of the organization.

With CADO not being a brick and mortar business makes it easier in lot of respects but still it has to make the transition to an organization in order to reach its fullest potential. As pointed out a board of directors has to be appointed and with bylaws and much, much more. From my personal experience this is not going to be easy or happen over night.

If one waits until all the ducks are lined up in a row to move forward than he will only discover, yes they are all lined up in a row BUT they are out of order. Since Roy as never met most of us or really had a chance to know who is out to help him reach his dream or who is just out for themselves makes it hard for him.

This is why informal get-togethers can be critical to the success of CADO. Not everyone will come or can come but it is a start. The regional meetings are a great idea to help pull things together if a national sight can not be worked out first.

Just getting started is the key to doing anything. If some show up and are upset because everything was not as he expected, so be it. He was never going to add to Roy’s dream to start with so it is best to find out up front.

The fact is many of us simple do not have the money and/or time to travel for an organization meeting unless it is close. I do agree some ground work needs to be laid down if possible upfront but it seldom happens that way.

Since Roy has clearly voiced his view that a small convention is a great idea why not let Tom get on with a simple convention. Roy is not that far from Arkansas and if it was just Tom and Roy to show up I bet they would have a great convention just the same. Bet at least one more shows up and room for 100 would enough if the cost to attend has to be paid up front. In 99 NACA only had about 150 of its 600 members to show up and it had been planned for a year or more. This is not a slap to NACA, just an example of a cat meeting. If it was lawyers, MD’s or school teachers the 25% ratio would have held.

In time CADO will evolve just has Hawkins Research is evolving over time. By keeping our corporation informal up front in organizational structure by me being the President and my wife the Secretary it permitted us to find out who showed the most interest in helping Hawkins Research become what we wanted before selecting our board of directors. Now we hold neither of our former positions but have more capable people filling those important positions and now our family, staff and investors are better off because we did not rush the organizational thing before we had the info and mind set needed to do it right.

CADO does not need to be rushed based on my business experience. CADO does not need to wait until all the ducks are lined up in a row. Roy needs time to grow CADO and to grow with CADO. Leadership is something that is developed from experience over a life time. From what I have seen from CADO, Roy has leadership skills. He as done what no other has done as far as moving the adjusting industry forward into the new millennium. Perhaps being the MC at CADO functions is part of his dream. If it is not then he can find someone that could do a great job.

That is the great thing about organizations that you start. You can find others to do the parts you don’t find that much fun so you can do the parts you best like. The funny thing is there is always someone that loves to do what you hate to do. That is why I am no longer the President but now head up the Marketing and Sales department. For those that do not know me, I love to promote PowerClaim. It is a natural for me while the day to day running of the business is not natural for me.

All I am saying is why not let Tom do what Roy feels like is a great idea and not get all hug up over getting everything perfect or meeting in our town. Hey I would like to meet in Murray, Kentucky myself. If I can make it to Tom’s or not is not a reason to wait for the perfect date and place is the way I see it.

Roy needs time and not to have an organizational plan crammed down his throat even if we mean well. I know I did not appreciate anyone pushing me faster that I wanted to go. Roy as done so much and we need to remember none of these discussions would be happening if he took his marbles and went home. CADO started out as Roy’s dream. He seems to welcome the help of others but let us keep it simple so the organization of CADO can be solid from the ground up. Roy needs to do what feels right and over time those willing and with the correct skills will continue to surface that will volunteer to help see his ever growing dream for CADO become a reality.

Faces will come and go based on my business development experience but the core group will build over time but there will be hard decisions to be made on who can stay a part of the core group. Remembering the overriding goal of the organization is more important than the ego of any member is critical to the future of the organization. Rooting out the less than the best is gut retching but is key to an organization’s future. Not being the best at reading people I found the old saying, “If you give them enough rope they will hang themselves” really works but it can get really messy in the mean time.

Tom someone had to come up with a plan and someone had to rain on the plan, that’s the law I think. How quick could something be worked out if you were to be so kind as to reconsider?
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 10:41 pm:   

Thank you Jim for noting that Newbees, in this dry storm year, have no monies to attend anything not absolutely required.

I would LOVE for NFIP to have certification training available.

I first logged on this website about 9 months ago. I can't even begin to describe the changes I have seen. It is a website that is very professionally presented. If it continues to change, exponentially, as it has so far, CADO will be THE website for this industry.

There are many people that I have talked to who have requested the address here. I received the website address from a fellow CAT adjuster and I pass it on. Who knows how many more people are reading the sight than are writing.

You guys are doing a GREAT job!!
Jim Flynt
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 4:06 pm:   

First of all, let me say that I am all in favor of education, training, seminars, conventions and any other worthwhile forums to better ourselves through personal development and growth.

I also support whatever training seminar that Tom Toll and any others would like to sponsor and schedule. Tom can do that any time he wants without asking for anyone's permission, and publish the details here for free to attract the reader attention of any that may want to attend.

What I am concerned about however is what is being billed as a "CADO Convention" and here are my reasons why:

(1) CADO is a "brand name" which belongs exclusively to Roy Cupps, and which he has worked long and hard not only to develop, but to protect. It is in fact a registered Trademark. As such, it should be protected from use until proper documentation of an event is provided to Roy to insure thar certain standards have been met. Perhaps Roy can develop CADO sponsored, or CADO sanctioned, or CADO supported event categories for submission by interested parties.

(2) We are in the midst of developing many new "products" if you will for the CADO Pages and for our CADO Members. One of the highest priorities we have right now, is to make available to our membership various group insurance products including health insurance. I have been the CADO staff person basically handling this, while keeping Roy posted on developments. One of the requirements which we will need to have in place prior to making this a reality is a CADO Charter, as someone else has already mentioned. The development of that charter needs to go hand in hand with certain of the group insurance requirements, and thus cannot be done in an isolated vacuum of committee. It is my suggestion that we have time to further advance the group insurance dialogue and the CADO Charter as well prior to having a "CADO Convention" so that our CADO Members can vote on it.

(3) Further, I think everyone would be better served if we could have such a group package available for sign-up at the time of our "first" convention.

(4) I am concerned that should this first effort fail for whatever reason, or if it is poorly attended, or the program leaves participants with the idea that it was not worth the cost, that we will forever taint our ability to overcome such a meeting held in great haste. We have come way to far to make a mistake, and therefore let us err on the side of caution.

(5) We are in the midst of a long dry spell with storm work for most adjusters, and that is especially applicable for our Newbee adjusters. While they might want to attend, now is not a good time for them to have monies available to spend.

(6) We would be better served to schedule a CADO Convention between winter ice storms and the start of hail season, and we have now missed that opportunity for this year. Or schedule it for later in this year as another choice.

(7) Like every other consumer, adjusters are informed consumers. That means that they will measure the cost/benefit of attending a function in less than 60 days which was made in haste, versus other educational opportunities of an equal or greater value. From reading the posts made so far, no one can even tell interested participants who the speakers are, the topics available, and how many hours each topic will last; nor how many days will be set aside for such a program.

(8) If enough time is utilized to properly prepare a real CADO Convention, then we can have vendors present showing their wares as well as participating as panelists, and perhaps off-set some of the costs. Further, this would add much to the "draw" for many adjusters.

(9) I know that I am just not willing nor able to attend a function called in such haste and with so little visible support to date. We need to involve many, many more people in the planning process and in doing so we will be able to attract perhaps a couple of hundred or more participants rather than 25 to 30. There is always an economy of scale with a larger group which lowers the cost to everyone.

(10) While Arkansas is a beautiful state, it is not centrally located for such an event, and the facilities described do not meet the standards of a hotel/convention center near an airport which we should at least consider.

(11) If we plan this properly, and well in advance, there is no reason that we could not get NFIP, and perhaps some of the carriers to also conduct some training or "certification sessions" simultaneously.

Finally, I support Tom in his efforts to provide educational training and seminars as he sees fit. Go ahead and do that, and you don't have to ask me.

But, just don't call it a CADO Convention, because we are not ready to start off on the wrong foot and take the chance of harming the reputation of CADO before we even begin to be what we are becoming. Call it the Tom Toll seminar series or whatever, I just have a problem seeing the CADO name attached to it without the larger support of our larger readership. After all, we now have over 15,000 readers per week to the CADO Pages, and when we do plan this first CADO Convention properly, we will not have to come on here to beg and cajole participation.

I wish for you and other supporters a good seminar and training session.

The views expressed here represent my own personal views and not those as a CADO Staff member.

As I said when I started this post, I am all in favor of encouraging educational sessions, seminars, conventions, classes, and the like. Let's just do it right the first time and not risk harming the CADO "NAME" in our haste.

We have an old saying here in North Carolina: "they didn't have the time to do it right, but they had the time to do it a second time."

Let's just do it right the FIRST TIME.

I would also ask that Roy weigh in on this post thread with his thoughts.
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 2:24 pm:   

Somebody takes the time, makes an effort to get the ball rolling to have a meeting. What happens, for several days he gets told why it should not be held now, wrong location, questionable format, old boys network, on and on. Mr Toll but the effort out and participate or not, the rest is not necessary. As far as anyone saying I could have done it, I suggest you go back to the story that was told here about standing the chicken egg on its end. Columbus made the effort and completed quest. Tom made the effort.
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 10:50 am:   


Stop for a moment & consider what you are doing. It appears that you are trying to make this convention a one man show. Now don't get mad and say you are going to quit & take your ball & go home. That's childish. If this organization for, of & by adjusters is to be, it will need individuals with a strong drive such as yours.

I have a question for you. Where do you think we would be today if our founding fathers expressed their positions as being my way or the highway? Now to say that differences in opinions did not occur would be ludicrous. They forged ahead and formed a union based on common ideals, purpose, direction & compromises that left the final draft open to change as the citizens determined with the passage of time.

In my earlier posting all I was trying to do was to simulate the thought process. All this talk about having a convention and not one word about the organization. CADO exists here on the internet. It was created by Roy Cupps. A terrific creation I might add. However, this is a web site for sharing information, not a non-profit organization of catastrophe adjusters.

It appears that everyone is trying to put the cart before the horse. Don't we need to have an organization charter, with bylaws, rules of order and so forth before we embark on a training convention?

Now your idea of having a meeting in Arkansas is a good idea. However, I propose that instead of trying to train anyone for anything, we instead, have a constitutional convention. This will determine the entire future of the organization.

Finally, I would like to say that I for one would welcome the opportunity to belong to an organization that placed the needs of the membership ahead of the needs of those entrusted with overseeing the operations. An organization that listens to its membership & responds in a positive way. However, I for one am not interested in an organization of, for & by good ole boys. An organization that if you are not in the click you do not matter. I believe that with careful planning and involvement by everyone this new organization can be the greatest organization for catastrophe adjusters.

In closing all I can say to you Tom is go for it.

Posted on Monday, March 13, 2000 - 11:55 pm:   

Tom, I support your ideas and the Arkansas site, small convention or large convention. And, why wait, the sooner the better. I hope my posts were not perceived as negative. Just came back to consciousness, found my mask to write, and wanted to put my words straight, keep on plugging. Do you have a weight or age standard for those who would assist in this effort to help all adjusters simply be better adjusters. It has been observed in the field, some average weight to skinny, 20ish, 30ish, 40ish, adjusters who were very good, and some that were not so good (the same for some big guys). Same applies to claims examiners. Most adjusters know their limits and their ish/weight. Actually it has been observed that many adjusters with more ish/weight are more carefull and respectfull of the roof climbing part of this business than some with less ish/weight. The proof is in the products for all parties to this adjusting process. In this business as in many others, sometimes different answers can both be correct. It is in the perception of the writer and the perceiver. Of course 8ft or 6ft is not subject to perception. Accuracy as empirically measurable is its on perceptor. Sorry about all this, ho hum starting to bore myself. Would much rather attend a CADDO convention. Hurry! No mask, but may be invisible.
Tom Toll
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2000 - 5:36 pm:   

I had a number of e-mails asking me not to give up. Nebby, if you saw some anger and frustration, boy are you keen, as thats exactly what I intended. Now lets get down to work. Who wishes to volunteer to help with this endeavor. If you don't like the idea of coming to central Arkansas, don't come. This is the first, of hopefully, many successful CADO annual conventions. We can determine the permanent convetion site at the 1st convention. We cannot be too big, as it is on a cost only basis, (no budget or money in coffers). E-mail me or Roy your suggestions as to content. We could have a golf tournament to go with it for those that like that sport.
Training is primarily for new adjusters and for the old guys to bone up on skills, (please don't tell me you know it all). Areas of possibility are:
1:Hail damage determination and proper way to measure roofs.
2: Estimating, (the real way) not just punching in numbers in your laptop.
3: Policy interpretation
4: Flood policy interpretation and claims handling
5: Psychlogy of handling the claim with the insured and insuror. (Tom Toll)
6: Proper reporting. (Randy Gray, Cunningham Lindsey)
7: File content,in case of litigation
8: Digital photography (the correct way ) Processing the digital photo on paper.
9: Videography , (Dave Hood)
10: How to judge a good vendor from a bad one. (Randy Gray)
11: File organization
12: Business interruption (Tom Weems)
13: Anything else, dependent on your suggestions.
I think the middle or later part of May would be a good time. (Intelligent comments only, please)
Any other suggestions, send them to Tom Toll or Roy Cupps.
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2000 - 2:51 pm:   

Tom - Don't give up so easily. Maybe the way to go is to form a committee to coordinate the event. I beleive everyone wants the same thing.. educational topics in a very professional envioroment. You guys know who would fit this mold. It will not meet everyone's demands, but it will be a start. The only way to make a long and difficult jorney is by taking the first step.
Posted on Monday, March 13, 2000 - 1:51 am:   

Tom get a sense of humor.

There are slightly more than 17 educated, responsible, conscious adjusters in America. The rest of us have choices other than Tom Toll University where we can take atend classes, seminars and conventions.

Your anger shines through your post.
Tom Toll
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 11:48 pm:   

I have a better idea, ladies and gentlemen. It seems that all want the convention, seminar, whatever you wish to call it, near their location. Needless to say, that is a literal impossiblitiy. Jim, I understand what ingredients are necessary to have an educational and exciting assembly, but waiting a year to have it!! There we go, no one wants to accept the responsibility for anything anymore.
I am withdrawing the offer to host the assembly. Instead, I make this suggestion. Lets form CADO chapters with 3 to 5 states in each chapter, then we will all be close to the annual chapter conventions, seminars, etc.
Thanks for the interest from 16 of you. You apparently know what it takes to be successful and educated.
Jim Flynt
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 11:09 pm:   

The geographical center of the United States is up in Kansas. A website showing this, is available for view at

Hope this helps in this discussion.

For what it is worth, I think a CADO Convention needs a good one year lead time to be planned properly. Otherwise, it is only going to be a golf or social outing.

It would take that much time to properly develop a program theme, set up space for vendors, develop speakers and their topics, and tie up the other things needed for a truly beneficial event.

To include as many participants as possible, we probably would be well served to wait until after this long dry spell workwise is over as well, so that our adjuster friends from around the country will have the extra money to attend.

My best wishes to all those working on this.
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 5:41 pm:   

The majority of adjusters & weather events are located within the areas that were in my discussion. Of course everyone
should be included in this thought process. Glad you responded.
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 3:52 pm:   


The last time I looked at a map of the USA I
found States west of Okla and Texas. Perhaps it would be a good idea to update your map. We in the West would like to be included also.
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 3:06 pm:   

A CADO convention sounds good. However, in my opinion to be a success several ingredients must be present. Over the years we have been to many seminars. Some of them sponsored by organizations & some of they were presented by vendors. We have never been to one that we did not come away gaining something. Some seminars were better than others, but they all were good. They all had a few things in common:
1. Putting a face with a name, after all where can you go and meet so many people in such a short amount of time.
2. Education, if you can come away with even a small improvement in your understanding of how to better accomplish your job (adjusting) then this is worth the entire trip to the seminar.
3. Vendors, weather this is a single or multiple vendor sponsored event or in this case a CADO Convention you can not meet & get to know the vendor adjusting firms, software providers in any other forum as fast as you can at a seminar or convention.
As most of you are aware disasters are normally seasonal. The time when work is available is not a time when you can even consider going to a seminar of a convention. To this end I would suggest a study of disaster events as it relates to normal times of the year in which they occur. The results would then dictate the time of the year when the vast majority of adjusters would be available to attend a seminar or convention.
The next critical decision is to determine the location of the event. The following items need to be included in the selection process;
1. Central Location (from the mid West to East Coast, from Maine to Texas, from Minnesota to Key West Florida the Two geographical central locations are Huntsville, Alabama or Nashville, Tennessee)
2. Keep the convention at the same location every year.
3. Availability of major airport (available at both locations)
4. Proper facilities (available at both locations)
5. Affordable accommodations (available at both locations)
6. Not in the middle of downtown where you can not park your car.
Now how do we get the most people involved in this new adventure? The answer is quite simple. Design the convention format around the topics that will benefit & spark the interest of everyone considering attendance. The first step is to make this determination. But how you ask? Again the answer is before us. Roy would need to setup a forum that the sole objection of the forum is for the collection of suggestions from the reader's of this form. After a period of time, place these suggestions in another forum for a vote. Then center the convention around the topics with the most interest and there you go.
The next step would be to determine the length of the convention. This can also be determine by a vote by the readers. First, once the topics for the convention are determined each topic would have the amount of required time set a side for making a proper presentation. Secondly, simply place this agenda before the reader's & members of CADO for another vote. Then set up several convention agendas using the above results that have a time span from One to Five Days and have one last vote. There you have it, a convention that will have an interest for everyone, affordable and most important at a time when the majority of us are available to attend.
The Preceding is only a suggestion on my part and my opinion of what would make one of the most successful & informative conventions for adjusters going.
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 12:17 pm:   

If the majority of adjuster's are from TEXAS, would it not make since to have a convention in TEXAS.
Paul Bagnato
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 9:02 am:   

I would enjoy the company and companionship of other Cat Adjs. I believe that one can learn every day if one wants to.
I surround myself with successful business people and people that are successful in their personal lives as well.
I would contribute and pay my share of a CADO convention, provided there are lectures and guests speakers that have something to contribute other then a self serving agender. Let me know when and where.
PS I live in NYC, the best by far for a convention
Tom Toll
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2000 - 10:48 pm:   

The essence of conscious life is control-the ability to control ones's present and future. Conscious life is the only entity in the universe that can control nature and future events. That control is possible to the extent that mysticism is absent and reality/cognition is present. A person in control is happy and will prosper. A person out of control is unhappy and will fail.

I have been hearing for many, many months about having a trainig CADO convention. To this date there have been only 11 positve e-mails and posts on the CADO site. Two want the convention elsewhere, possibly closer to their homes. I suggested Cabot, Arkansas, as it is my home and I was willing to put in the effort to start something positive, as opposed to blowing hot air. If I do not have at least 40 more responses in 7 days, I will withdraw the offer to get the first CADO/training convention going. It cannot be big, as there is no budgetary funding available. It will be on a cost basis only.
To all those conscious individuals who are in control of their lives, thanks for the e-mails and posts. For all the other individuals, who do not appear to be in control of their conscious life, don't dig your pity pit too deep.
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2000 - 8:14 pm:   

I would be interested in coming to a convention what would be wrong with Louisville Ky another good place would be overland park Ks i have been in there and found flights fairly inexpensive
older than dirt
Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2000 - 12:26 am:   

How about a dunk tank for all the masked writers, all those we have offended (whether intended or not) could have their moment. And we could raise money for adjusters families in need.
storm pro
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 10:20 pm:   

Speaking of masked writers, a convention could be just the right forum for "unmasking" those of us who choose anonymity on this site.
Let's see name tags with real names and aliases
"Gee Ghostbuster you're not what I expected at all"
Russ Doe
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 5:39 pm:   

Roy Cupps
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 4:59 pm:   

I think a small convention is a great idea and I thank Tom for taking action. We are not big enough yet for an expense like Haag. But, I bet we can still have great convention. Count me in.
Gary Johnson
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 3:03 pm:   

I would like to express my interest in attending a CADO convention. I think that it would be a very good idea that as adjusters we gather and contribute the varied talents and expertise that can be offered to a setting such as this.The benefits would be a great assess to our profession and unification as adjusters.
My hat is in.
Speaking as one of the "Kansas City boys"
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 11:25 am:   

Thanks for thinking of PowerClaim Frank but I feel software should be the least of the CADO members concerns at the first organizational meeting. This meeting will be critical to the entire adjusting industry. Just email me today if you have a general or specific questions about our CADO Sponsor Special.
frank johnson
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 8:02 am:   

Why don't you invite gale hawkins to yur seminar to talk about powerclaim? We never hear enuf about it here.
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 7:46 am:   

Sun not up but put my mask on to join the other masked writers. Hey Ghostbuster, you are probably meaning a little humor about Tom T convention. A little putty, by accident,we are only human.

The Arkansas site sounds great. However prefer beef to poultry.

Thanks Tom. Your authored posts are a notch higher on the respect scale than, mine or other, masked authors often deserve. But, I still believe that masked authors are necessary to get somethings said, that would not be said otherwise.

Perhaps you can have a behind the screen panel for your convention and invite some of the better ones. No wonder, just awandering.
ricvitiello Benchmark Services Inc - Roofing Consultants, Cause & Origin Specialists
Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2000 - 2:17 am:   

If there is an interest in Hail damage assessment training, I may be able to provide it at cost depending on the date.
Consider airline service wherever the seminar would be held. For example Atlanta is nicely located but Southwest air doesnt fly there so Every time I fly to Atlanta it seems I pay 2 or 3 times what I do when I fly southwest.

Ric Vitiello
Tom Toll
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 8:04 pm:   

Small seminar is self explanatory. Have not lined up speakers, depending on experienced adjusters. There will be no counts on continuing ed. This is an attempt to get something worthwhile going.
I notice the pun from ghostbuster. Buster, if that is some attempt to insult me or my state, you failed.
I think Jim Flynt would be an excellent speaker, Dave Hood, Roy Cupps, myself, and many others. I will get an attorney to satisfy that element. Lot of prep work to do. Just trying to see if enough would be interested. Cabot is near Little Rock, AR. CC mean Country Club. Can get a larger building if enough interest is shown. Will get enough speakers and teachers to make it interesting and educational.
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 7:41 pm:   

(Whisper) Shhhh! I think it means 'convention center'. Ya see, in Arkansas, theys hold them thar conventions in converted old poultry barns, so while the old droppins is free, human capacity is kinda limited, don't you know...
storm pro
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 7:26 pm:   

We are having Haag speak at "my vendor's" convention next month in Charlotte and I understand they are expensive. I think that they
may charge around $4500.00 plus I think you have to pay their travel expenses.
How about some input on this subject from Roy or the boys???
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 7:02 pm:   

i'd be interested but, before committing, i'd want to know what kind of training, when it would be, and whethor we would get C.E. credit. also, Haag might be good for a presentation or two. what does "CC" stand for? and why limit to 100?
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 5:58 pm:   

GREAT IDEA, whose time has come. Thanks
Tom Toll
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 2:04 pm:   

If you are interested in having a CADO convention, my wife and I have checked the CC we belong to and there is enough for 100. We talked to Randy Gray with Cunningham Lindsey and he thought a training type seminar would be a good idea. He volunteered his time, as did Tom Weems and others. Three days of training, hard training for anyone that wanted to soup up their engines, or trainees. This training seminar would be on a cost basis, no profit. The CC wants 125.00 per day for use and their are plenty of accomodations around Cabot Arkansas. Any trainer volunteers would be appreciated. Motels around here get about $45.00 per nite.

Any other thoughts about this would be appreciated. I hear a lot of talk about this, now action is being offered. How many takers. Please e-mail me about your interest in attending. Limited to 100.
storm pro
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 9:45 pm:   

Are we big enough to have some sort of small convention? Would there be enough people interested? How about if some training and/or certification was offered to attract attendees?
It would be nice to meet all of you someday and put a face with a name.

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