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Greg Achee
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2000 - 2:41 am:   

CecElia,
By the way, why did you say you had to take another job?
Since parting Wardlaw, I have worked everyday, till the present, AND unlike some others, I won't mention, HAVE been able to pay my bills and theirs.
I wish you good luck in your future endeavors.
Greg Achee
Posted on Thursday, March 16, 2000 - 2:26 am:   

CecElia,
Sorry for the spelling error. I stand corrected. Not having a problem with Wardlaw. I learned along time ago, to cut my losses and get on with life. I was only trying to pass some advice to you as to the school of hard knocks, but I see you have already enrolled. Good luck and Tell your friend Donnie hi for me, or he can. My email address is listed.
Cecelia
Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2000 - 3:44 pm:   

Greg, that's CecElia.

I checked with Donnie Anders and he should be logging onto the site here in the next day or so. Perhaps, if you are having a problem collecting from Wardlaw, you should take it up with Donnie or one of the Wardlaws.
Greg Achee
Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2000 - 2:49 am:   

Cecilia,
Don't get your education in this business from the school of hard knocks. Also, don't believe half, sorry 1/4 of what most managers say.

P S would you call and get an advance and pay me what they owe me?
Wanderadjuster
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 6:03 pm:   

Add the Ghostbuster and several other masked authors to the respected list. Do not want to leave a good mind to waste, even under a mask.

Just wandered into the sunset,sun got in my eyes and can't find my mask to continue!
Wanderadjuster
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 5:58 pm:   

Gale, like most of your non-adv posts. Respect your marketing savvy and agility.

Would like to regularly hear when you have something new to say about your product. Better pricing, test pricing, etc ................

Just post a note under products and your web page, I will always click the counter.

Keep the good adjusting stuff coming with Tom Toll, the Oldtimer, and the Phantom.
herd enuf
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 1:54 pm:   

Gale, PLEASE post your ramblings under your own new topic heading: Why I have to push PowerClaim so Much, and leave this discussion to the Pilot legal actions.

That is what this topic is about Gale or can't you read?
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 1:42 pm:   

Sorry wrong discussion. Please see Herd's discussion he started in order to assist in the promotion of PowerClaim. It is near the top of the Forum.
Ghostbuster
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 12:24 pm:   

...of which, by the way Chillun, is the one posted above. So lets get back to it.

Ya' know, I'm starting to feel kinda sorry for Curtis and kin. Now that Curtis has seen 40+ years of age, those typical, mid-life crisis are coming to pass. Like for example; I heard he's divorced, the company his Daddy founded now must cough up $6,000,000.00 + attorney fees, the kids are growing up and becoming their own selves. And how about those fun little health problems we all face at this time? Like your eyes now need glasses and your first angioplasty is coming up regardless of your cholestoral and weight level and where did all this gray hair come from? Like all of us, I imagine poor ol' Curtis occasionaly lifts his head to that big 'bama moon and bellows forth, "WHY IS THIS HAPPENING TO ME!?!?". Yep, we all have or will deal with this time of life sooner or later.

I just can't help but giggle in sympathy. But I still will not sign that contract!
ol' timer
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 11:17 am:   

I see where a new topic just for Gale to hawk his software has been posted Tom and Wayland. Hopefully, any other topics he posts to will be free of his marketing and advertising message, and will concentrate on the subject at hand.
Tom
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 11:12 am:   

Mr French,
Gale does broadcast his product extensivly, it is an open forum and available to him and all others. He has benifited us in controling the cost of programs and as with the others raised the bar in ease of use, accessability etc. Also other programs have exclusive contracts (sorry Alan re:wording) which is great for them and their marketing, Gale competes where he can. I also think it sometimes goes overboard, but not many a subject does't. By the way and you can confirm it I am not a customer of Powerclaim, but no note that Gale has given us (CADO) much needed input from a vendors outlook over the years.
The purpose of the board is not to bash everyone and subject and do note that DDS and others are on the block. I guess it comes down to not enough to do in the field.
Wayland French
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 9:50 am:   

I have only been in this profession for about 6 months, and I really enjoy reading the postings here at CADO web-site. But even to me, it seems that every time Gale Hawkins writes a post, he is trying to push his powerclaim product. This seems to me to be the acts of a desparate man...I totally respect the rights of a business man to "hawk his wares" but dang it Gale, you always go overboard...please give us a break, and at least limit the discussions to whatever the topic is. I would advise you to set up a discussion with the topic "Why I feel like I must push powerclaim every chance that I get"
old timer
Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2000 - 12:41 am:   

NACA is "dead" Gale. CADO is the up and coming new kid on the block. Why doesn't DDS recognize that?
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 11:10 pm:   

Sorry Alan YOU did not take the time to read all the posts to the discussion YOU started. Not paying attention to details may cost you a case some day. I will deal with your other post concerning lawyers another time. I bet you are not really DONE either!

Old Timer don’t knock DDS’s way of doing business because it is good for business but if you really want a discount on DDS go join NACA. For more info hit http://www.dds-solutions.com/leases.htm
old timer
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 10:28 pm:   

Alan at least Gale could tell us what he thinks about DDS giving the adjusters who work for Pilot a super duper discount on their software while charging the heck out of the rest of us poor slaves. Wonder why DDS can't or won't give the CADO readers the same deal as they give Pilot? DDS where are you? What do you have to say about that?
alanjackson
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 10:22 pm:   

To: Gale
From: Alan

Don't you get enough free advertising on this web site. Stick to the topic of discussion under this heading.I look up and see you plugging your software under every discussion.

please!!!! we all know who you are and what you have to sell, stick to the point. this discussion is about the binding arbitration agreement in pilots employment agreement.
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 10:04 pm:   

Just to set the record straight, we at Hawkins Research do not care who you, the adjuster works for because it is our goal to be the most used property adjusting software package by the fourth quarter of 2003. Limiting the sale of our software to adjusters, especially those working for a very large firm is not part of our business plan. In fact during Floyd we were very excited that a one of our users was permitted by Pilot to use PowerClaim.

If you are a CADO Sponsor or become one before March 31 (by clicking on CADO’s Visa Card Icon) you can get in on both the CADO Special pricing and our Winter Special. With this limited time combo offer your average monthly cost is only $15.79 a month for the next two years for a single user but you need to get your copy of PowerClaim authorized for you FREE 30 day trial by March 31. The software is fully functional so you can use it to earn money starting the day you call for your FREE 30 day trial. If you have 30 minutes when you call on our toll-free number (1-800-736-1246) we will give you the FREE training to get you up and running.

Hit our site at http://www.powerclaim.com for more CADO Special pricing details, to request a copy or to download a copy of PowerClaim. It talks about PowerClaim 2000 which will be out in April but since we had the new site developed we went ahead and put it own our new web server last week. Remember this special offer ends March 31 but if you buy PowerClaim 99 under this special for only $379 you get PowerClaim 2000 and PowerClaim 2001, along with all updates completely FREE.

Just in case it still is not clear, Hawkins Research Inc. is in the business of producing better quality adjusting software for less, not trying to run the business of any vendor or anyone who may work for a vendor. Thanks for your understanding.
alan jackson
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 2:24 pm:   

To: Tom Weems

How do you do the following under Pilots new contract.

1) Settle any and all disputes, without Binding Arbitration? (It's in the contract)

2)Are you suggesting that everyone repersent themselves, (pro-se) without an attorney. (Arbitrators, in this case a circuit judge, past or present, of Mobile County, Alabama, has to be the arbitrator or name one)

Get real, if you understood arbitration, you would not even consider signing the thing.

I look forward to your response.
Tom Weems
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 1:41 pm:   

I have seen a lot of "Pilot Bashing" on the board lately, and I feel like I have to tell ya that MY experience with them has been uniformly positive. I have only had the opportunity to work 3 storms for them, and this is one adjuster that has no problem with the company or the family. Come on guys, you are scaring the rookies.

Pilot is like everyone else. If you do your job, adjust your files and don't act like a jerk, you will get along just fine with them. Be professional and you will be treated like one. I make it a habit not to be captive to one vendor, but I have to say that they are high on the list of companies that I work for. Every company out there is capable of giving an adjuster a bad experience, but IMHO the are much better than some of these companies that wait to be paid by the carrier before they pay the adjusters. As a matter of fact, in my recent discussions with other adjusters, there are two companies that keep coming up as slow pay, and Pilot isn't one of them.

If I am not getting paid by a vendor, they will hear from me personally long before arbitration, and there are many ways to get paid that don't require the use of an attorney.
aljlaw
Posted on Monday, March 06, 2000 - 12:36 pm:   

Please check out the new discussion, Civil Suit against Cat Company. Lawrence Babinski V Pilot.

I believe this explains why Pilot changed their contract and added a arbitration clause to their contract.

It also explains why a public adjuster appears to be the new spokes person.
MKDCO
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 8:58 pm:   

Tex - I have to disagree with you on your post. If Gale sells his software to adjusters that work for Pilot or anybody else, that's what he is in business for, SELLING SOFTWARE. Regardless to the software vendor, it would not be a show of good business to refuse to sell software to ANY adjuster just because they work for a certain cat. vendor. That could turn around and bite them in the long/short of it. After reviewing Gale's post, I found no where in them where he (Gale) said anything about Pilot being no good. That also would not be in his or the other software vendors favor to make such a statement or comment. Would only hurt their business across the board. I do beleive that his comments were directed as mine to Chad Smith like so many others. Al's comment about Smith being a Big Fat Idiot was, in my opion- which don't mean nothing to anyone but me - out of line. I might be BIG and Fat but not anywhere close to being an Idiot. WHEN ARE WE GOING TO GET OFF THE WHIPPED DOGGIE AND MOVE ON???
Ghostbuster
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 4:23 pm:   

Uhhhh... Gee Tex,
it's not that Pilot is "no dam good", I've found that in the past they're not so bad. It's just that now they went & got it into their heads that we field hands ought to be indentured to them for two years and not be able to seek a judicial trial over problems. And like, I just don't like that concept. More than a few Pilot adjusters returned the contract signed, but whited-out the offending sections and then signed it. More than one way to do things, I reckon.

I will not sign it.

I wonder if the Pilot kids made too many millions from the L.A. earthquake and have had their competitve edge blunted. I don't think they have had a convention in the past few years, either. This non-compete and arbitration business smells like something that was cooked up by their corporate law firm boys there in Mobile. It really reeks of that old southern ways of doing things.
Tex
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 3:06 pm:   

Us Texan’s sure won’t work for Pilot . We will put them out of business by gosh. Gale I agree with you Pilot is no dam good maybe you should refuse to sell you software to anyone that works for Pilot that will fix them
Ghostbuster
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 10:59 am:   

Chaddy-poo,

Your website had you pegged as a Public Adjuster but now you are coming out as a pit bull type yard dog for the Pilot contract. Just like James Carville does for Clinton! Now (per your entry), wouldn't it be loverly if Pilot was the only game in town and could then raise the feebills. I'm sure the Eberls, Renfroes, Worleys, Crawfords, GABs etal are tickled pink over that aspect. Methinks you might ought to just stay hunkered down up there in New York for awhile. I've always enjoyed dealing with bullies but right now, I'm kinda busy dealing with something of far greater importance than you, the death of one our Brothers.
Alan Jackson
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 10:33 am:   

One of the key things everyone still keeps overlooking, any dispute arrising out of the Pilot contract must be settled by Binding Arbitration in Mobile, Alabama. This will cost the adjuster a minimum of $5,000.00, not including travel or lodging. I wish Davis or Rodney would make a statement repersentative to the company line. I wonder if they even knew this was in their contract.

I started this conversation and I made a lot of money working for Pilot, (back in the good ole days) I do not have a ax to grind. However, Binding Arbitration was designed so two large companies could settle their disputes. Pilot is asking everyone to give up their Constitutional right to a trial by jury. Our forefathers fought and died so that we all could settle our disputes by trial with a jury of our peers. If everyone played fair, we would need a trial or jury. Unforunately, this is not always the case.

Bottom Line, I smell fear in Mobile, Alabama.
Al Franken
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 9:11 am:   

Chad Smith is a BIG FAT IDIOT.
R.D. Hood
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 8:53 am:   

10/4, roger that, correct, agreed, confirmed, IMHO
Odell
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 8:46 am:   

Going into a battle totally unarmed is a form of suicide isn't it Dave?
R.D. Hood
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 8:43 am:   

It amazes this old man, that some people elect to enter into a battle of wits "totally unarmed", to para-phrase a comment heard recently.

The re-active commentaries offer fuel to the fray, but, in truth, do not support the real issues of instruction, education, information.

As with all things in life , we should "consider the source".

My dogs going back to bed. (YAWN)
juans toknow
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 8:36 am:   

Chad, why don't you tell us which state or states you are licensed in and what kind of adjusting licenses you have? Knowing that would be quite helpful to this conversation.
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 2:26 am:   

Chad since you seem to have trouble keeping straight what who said as well as telling time, why don’t you copy the thread to your word processor and blow it up to about 16 points and print it out. It helps me when I get really confused as you are tonight.
Chad Smith
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 1:04 am:   

Ross Lott
Here is what you wrote and that was taken out of the Forum so I decided to put it back so get a hold of your buddies and take it out again if you want .
Chad


Well congratulations to you "Chad Smith" for coming on to the Forum and posting the "Pilot line."

Obviously it is you who is "intoxicated" by whatever the Pilot boys fed you, and we see that their posture is to send you in here to call everyone who doesn't sign their contract a "drunk, druggie, trouble maker, whiner, gloomer doomer and no can doers."

In looking back over the list of those who responded, I noticed quite a few damn good adjusters who used their real names. Adjusters who have forgotten more about adjusting than YOU will ever learn. And damn fine experienced adjusters who are not drunks, druggies, trouble makers, whiners, gloomers, doomers, no can doers, and any other negative name you can find in your limited vocabulary to call them.

At least they used their real email address. Wonder why you didn't? I noticed that there is no "Chad Smith" listed on the Cado roster. Wonder why?

Pilot has a few good adjusters just like every other vendor, and they also have more than their share of some pretty bad ones too. Which group are you in?

Have fun with the boys at Pilot while it lasts.
My sympathy is with you as you wallow in your ignorance. Do you really have to resort to name calling in order to defend your indefensible position?
Steve Ebner
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2000 - 1:01 am:   

I have taken a little time since my last post to look over the Pilot materials in more detail. I'm a little slow about such things because I am on assignment and I tend to focus on fulfilling the assignment I am on to the point of ignoring everything else. I am not convinced, after reading the non-competition clause in Pilot's contract, that there is some overstating of the restrictions of that clause on these pages. One thing we learn early as adjusters is that any ambiguity in a contract is interpreted under the law in the favor of the party upon whom the contract is thrust. I would tend to believe that the ambiguity of such terms as "assignment, in general" and "catastrophe, in general" would tend to be interpreted in the most favorable light to the catadjuster and not to Pilot. But I do have a problem with the whole restrictive approach of the package of materials sent me by Pilot. When I was a State Farm staffer I signed similar agreements to the ones sent me by Pilot, but State Farm offered much more of a sure thing to me than Pilot has ever offered. The first two years I was signed up with Pilot I was not offered a single assignment. A Cat Vendor hiring me as an "employee at will" has no right to expect the same dedication or restrictions upon my actions as an employer offering me a sizable regular salary and benefits may ask. And lest we forget, the "benefits" offered by Pilot (e.g. 401K) comes out of the catadjuster's pocket. I could walk into any bank or insurance agency and start an IRA which would offer similar benefits to the Pilot 401K. There is at least one company providing health insurance to their core catadjusters. As an independent, after all these years of cowtowing to inferior superiors, even the demands attendant upon that deal give me pause. I do hope that there continue to be some vendors who understand the psychology of what makes us independents.
Reality
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 11:28 pm:   

I hope Pilot is reading this they would get a good kick out of it all. You sure are bent on Pilot bashing who is going to be next Crawford.
You guys are so puffed up on your selves. In reality all you are is unemployed Insurance Adjusters. I have to give Chad credit at least he speaks his mind but I don't know why he wastes his time with a bunch of people that have a ax to grind with Pilot
Pat Marx
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 11:16 pm:   

I hope Mr Smith is not representing Pilot as I am sure Pilot has more class then to let this type of loose cannon speak for them.We may not agree with the contract they are offering but no one else has came unglued and made these kind of statements,so far I am very proud of the restraint and humor shown on this site.Keep up the good work.
MKDCO
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 10:33 pm:   

Rebuttle Time: It would seem that Smith has a misunderstanding about who the vendors contact. I did not know any cat. company that hired Adjusters who were not ADJUSTERS, either as Staff or Ind. So I guess he was talking about someone else when he stated:
"They don't want druggies or drunks working for them and we all know that type of adjuster and the problems they bring with them"
I guess that Pilot, Crawford and Eberyl's had better review their files and weed out the non-adjusters. By the way, I wear BIG Shoes but they in no manner come close to your description of "Shoe Fits"
LETS MOVE ON TO A MORE POSITIVE POSITION WITHIN THIS INDUSTRY.
Chad Smith
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 9:35 pm:   

Please don’t take my words out of context I called no adjuster anything . Since you want to talk in colorful little tidbits . If the shoe fits wear it. Below is what I said.

“If you’re a drunk, a druggie or a trouble maker don’t bother signing it because it looks like Pilot is helping to clean house in the industry of those types of people”

Now if you want to consider your self “ those type of people “ Go right a head.

Yes there are a lot of good adjusters and thank God for that but there are some bad apples in the industry too. The times are changing and you get on board with the changes or get left behind. The Insurance companies Adjusting companies Politicians and Homeowners are not going to stand for anything other than a Professional Adjuster. That’s why all the companies are coming up with strict Policy Manuals. So if you feel I have offended you unjustly for some reason I am man enough to apologize that was not my intent.
Jim Flynt
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 8:48 pm:   

Gale, I second your motion on Russ Lott.

Russ spends more time with me on the road each year than he does with his wife, and if there is a better adjuster anywhere out there than Russ, I want to meet him. You can "bad mouth" me Chad all you want, but when you start bad mouthing Russ Lott and Steve Ebner, those will be fighting words.

As someone else has said, Russ has forgotten more about adjusting than you will ever learn, and so have Steve Ebner and others who posted here on this thread.

I know several of the other adjusters who have posted here saying they would not sign the Pilot agreement, and I will put them up against any adjuster Pilot has on their roster. They are not drunks, they are not whiners, and they are not losers. Far from it, they are all talented adjusters as well as Ladies and Gentlemen of the first order.

Why don't you post your resume on the CADO Resume or Roster Page so we all can see how you really stack up.

And NO, I am NOT afraid to use my last name either. And, I'll be happy to compare resumes, education, adjusting knowledge and ability with you any day and twice on Sunday.

As Russ said, I think making the PLRB aware of your working for Pilot as a Public Adjuster is a reasonable, prudent and timely action. Let's see how long you last with Pilot when the PLRB starts asking questions.

I did not have a dog in this fight until you came in here and "bad mouthed" a whole bunch of good adjusters. You, your words, and your attitude have done more to turn off the adjuster readers on this page toward Pilot than all the things that the other posters originally said.

As MKDCO has said, with your comments, you have now elimanated any possibility of working with all the other vendors other than Pilot. I can't imagine that any adjuster
not working for Pilot, who you have disgraced with your words would ever want to work with you.

And you have disgraced yourself by attacking the entire catastrophe adjusting community. While we may all work for different vendors for different reasons, we have never resorted to nor witnessed the type of slanderous remarks which you have directed at THOUSANDS of cat adjuster not working for Pilot.

Isn't your scorn for us actually your deep seated hostility toward all independent adjusters born of your role as a public adjuster?

There is good news for the rest of us however. If I were in the shoes of Pilot management, I would have serious reservations about wanting you on the CADO Page as the company "mouthpiece" or ever hiring you again as a Pilot company representative.
MKDCO
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 8:41 pm:   

TO: Chad Smith - Who ever you may be -
After reading your post, a buttom was punched that takes some doing to punch. You Sir - and I use that term very loosely - seem to have a real overbearing case of articulation without using your cerebral matter. How did you think up the most abhorrent text that I have seen posted within this forum? In all posting that I have seen submitted, not once have I seen a post that referred to Pilot as being the "Best or Worst" Vendor. You have by your post disparraged the other vendors within this industry - Good, Bad or Otherwise. No one has stated that Pilot has or has not - in the past - treated their Ind. Adjusters with fairness or consideration. Now here you come making remarks about Ind. Adjusters conceivably being DRUNKS, DRUGGIES and or TROUBLE MAKERS. You have the effrontery to insinate that if one did or did not submit a signed contract as written that they are or shall be the above stated miscreauts. Now if I did or did not sign such a contract, you for one would not be the bipedal that I would confer the right to confabulate such a plethora of text about various Ind. Adjusters, let alone towards myself.
If Adjusters drink or not drink, that is of no possible concern to you. That is the affairs of Pilot and the Adjuster in question. Ostensibly, it seems you are ringing a bell of self-recrinination on yourself. This leads me to think of a saying we have in my part of the country -
You appear to be the southern caboose of a north bound Jack!
Gale Hawkins
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 8:29 pm:   

Chad you may want to take your dog out of the fight and go home because he sure is spending a lot of time on his back with a constricted airway. If you had a clue you would realize that Russ Lott most likely worked as many days last year as any CADO sponsor or cat adjuster in general because the Cat companies already know him. Did you come upon the idea of turning Pilot into a Cat Union all by yourself?
Rod Davis
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 6:35 pm:   

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck, then it is probably a duck. Or a Public Adjuster.

I wouldn't worry about sending anything about the adjusters who refused to sign the Pilot contract to all of the other vendors in an effort to slam them. That is a pretty good sign to the other vendors that those adjusters have some damn sense.
Chad Smith
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 6:11 pm:   

Oh its back to calling me a Public Adjuster .
Wrong again and its getting to be a long list of the things your wrong about.
Well I am glad you had the courage to tell everyone who you are and will forward you post to all the Cat companies so they know what kind of adjuster they are getting when they think about calling you for storm.
Rod Davis
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 5:52 pm:   

So now Pilot is down to hiring Public Adjusters?
Russ Lott
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 5:52 pm:   

Chad I am using my real name so we don't confuse the issues. When Pilot has to start getting their support from public adjusters then count me out. I have read the "AGREEMENT" from Pilot and will not sign it and can not recommend to anyone in the business to sign it. The non compete is for 24 months and the arbitration paragraphs are not for CAT adjusters If Pilot is into Public adjusting now this I find real interesting and so should every member of the Independent community. I am forwarding a copy of your response to the PLRB also as the member companies will all be interested in Pilots new venture into the realm of the public adjuster.

Russ Lott
Chad B Smith
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 5:35 pm:   

Response to Mr. Jokes on you
Well it only took 5 minutes for an adjuster exactly like the one I was talking about to state his position and beef with Pilot. Of course you did not put your real name down as is typical for cowards. You’re exactly the type of adjuster Pilot, Crawford, Eberyls and others are trying to weed out of the business. The reason you’re not working today is obviously you have already been weeded out of the good adjusting firms that are mentioned above. I certainly stand by what I said in the former post. Pilot has put a lot of food on the table for a lot of Adjusters. They only make money if you do. Now it dose not get any fairer than that. Thank God adjusters with this kind of adversarial relationship are being weeded out. It is good for the homeowner, good for the Insurance Companies reputation, and good for reputable adjusters. My name of course is Chad Smith and if you want to find me on this site go to who is Claimmasters in the Forum. Oh and people like you were wrong about some of the things you said about Claimmasters. The Insurance companies love the reviews I am doing for them as it makes their Adjusters better and the companies’ reputation enhanced. My business is doing great but I certainly will try to make the big storm season in the summer, as I love the work and the friends I have in the industry.
No” Mr. Jokes on you” you are also wrong in the assumption that I am a full time employee with Pilot. I am not. I work on storm and enjoy my relationship with all the Cat Companies and am considered by all as a good adjuster and team player. I suggest you change your attitude for your own sake as your only hurting yourself and others who follow your barnyard bully tactics all the way to the unemployment line. Obviously you became angry at my post because you realized you are the type of person I was talking about and foolishly you just had to respond to defend your self.
Paladin
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 4:45 pm:   

Chad
Drop us a note in 6 months when the honeymoon is over.
jokes on you
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 12:58 pm:   

Well congratulations to you "Chad Smith" for coming on to the Forum and posting the "Pilot line."

Obviously it is you who is "intoxicated" by whatever the Pilot boys fed you, and we see that their posture is to send you in here to call everyone who doesn't sign their contract a "drunk, druggie, trouble maker, whiner, gloomer doomer and no can doers."

In looking back over the list of those who responded, I noticed quite a few damn good adjusters who used their real names. Adjusters who have forgotten more about adjusting than YOU will ever learn. And damn fine experienced adjusters who are not drunks, druggies, trouble makers, whiners, gloomers, doomers, no can doers, and any other negative name you can find in your limited vocabulary to call them.

At least they used their real email address. Wonder why you didn't? I noticed that there is no "Chad Smith" listed on the Cado roster. Wonder why?

Pilot has a few good adjusters just like every other vendor, and they also have more than their share of some pretty bad ones too. Which group are you in?

Have fun with the boys at Pilot while it lasts.
My sympathy is with you as you wallow in your ignorance. Do you really have to resort to name calling in order to defend your indefensible position?
Chad Smith
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2000 - 11:49 am:   

I signed the Pilot contract and am proud of it. It’s a great contract if everyone worked for pilot then the Cat business would be a lot better for all.
Before there was talk of making some sort of Union, well think about it if everyone signed up on the contract with pilot it would increase the fee schedule as Pilot would be the only game in town and they could pretty much demand what the fee schedule would be.
If you read the policy manual it’s the best in the business and will promote your professional standards. They don’t want druggies or drunks working for them and we all know that type of adjuster and the problems they bring with them. If you want a better fee schedule, better working conditions, and to work more often I encourage you to sign the work agreement. If you’re a drunk, a druggie or a trouble maker don’t bother signing it because it looks like Pilot is helping to clean house in the industry of those types of people.

They also offer great benefits like their 401 plan and Cafeteria Plan, check it out. Pilot has always been fair and reasonable to their Cat Adjusters that’s exactly why they are one of the biggest companies in the business.
I encourage all good adjusters to get on board with that contract and not be influenced by the winers gloomers , doomers and no can doers.
frankie franks
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2000 - 4:11 pm:   

Anyone heard anything more from Pilot?
NotMe
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2000 - 12:10 am:   

Rod Davis
Gee last time i saw you, you were sitting in the camelot rv park in Lubbock singing the praises of pilot. welcome back!
rod davis
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2000 - 8:46 pm:   

You don't have to be a dumb to work for Pilot but it sure helps.
anybodybutpilot
Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2000 - 8:16 pm:   

Pilot Family, less you think we have forgotten, we are still awaiting your response here.

I guess you are as ashamed of your policies as we are or else you would respond.

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