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Posted on Friday, July 07, 2000 - 3:04 am:   

We tend to be loose as a goose with our comments. After all you old timers know that we make more in a day than the Average Joe makes in a week (LET THEM EAT CAKE) This kind of crap promotes higher fee schedules (don't you know!). After all I been to law School too and I got the answer. Sometimes silence is golden. Will you people
ever learn? Sometimes I wonder? Wake Up!
Kile Anderson
Posted on Thursday, July 06, 2000 - 10:14 pm:   

If I remember my college business law class correctly, Independent adjusters are in the category of Independent Contractors. We are paid on a fee basis. We are exempt from any overtime laws. Most of us make more than the average persons weekly salary in a day. I don't think Mr. Berger even has a clue who he's dealing with. I have a friend who smokes, maybe he could call him to sue the Circle K clerk who sold him the smokes.
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 12:25 pm:   

We all hate them!
Untill we need one.

Just food for thought.
R.D. Hood (Dave)
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 11:37 am:   


I must bow, (with respect) in deference to your outstanding, comprehensive assessment of the system.

Where, O where, are the principles you and I were raised with, have they died an untimely death, and no one that was born before 1940 can remember?

There are always exceptions, to the rule, but seem to be few and far between.
Chuck Deaton
Posted on Sunday, June 18, 2000 - 10:56 am:   

The Ant and the Grasshopper

Original Version
The ant works hard in the withering heat all summer long, building his house and laying up supplies for the winter. The grasshopper thinks he's a fool and laughs and dances and plays the summer away. Come winter, the ant is warm and well fed. The grasshopper has no food or shelter so he dies out in the cold.

Modern American Version
Come winter, the shivering grasshopper calls a press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be warm and well fed while others are cold and starving. CBS, NBC and ABC show up to provide pictures of the shivering grasshopper next to video of the ant in his comfortable home with a table filled with food. America is stunned by the sharp contrast. How can it be that, in a country of such wealth, this poor grasshopper is allowed to suffer so?

Then a representative of the NAAGB (the National Association for the Advancement of Green Bugs) shows up on Nightline and charges the ant with "green bias," and makes the case that the grasshopper is the victim of 30 million years of greenism.

Kermit the Frog appears on Oprah with the grasshopper, and everybody cries when he sings "It's not easy being green." Bill and Hillary Clinton make a special guest appearance on the CBS Evening News to tell a concerned Dan Rather that they will do everything they can for the grasshopper who has been denied the prosperity he deserves by those who benefited unfairly during the Reagan summers, or as Bill refers to it, the "Temperatures of the 80's."

Richard Gephardt exclaims in an interview with Peter Jennings that the ant has gotten rich off the back of the grasshopper, and calls for an immediate tax hike on the ant to make him pay his "fair share."

Finally, the EEOC drafts the "Economic Equity and Anti-Greenism Act," retroactive to the beginning of the summer. The ant is fined for failing to hire a proportionate number of green bugs and, having nothing left to pay his retroactive taxes, his home is confiscated by the government. Hillary gets her old law firm to represent the grasshopper in a defamation suit against the ant, and the case is tried before a panel of federal judges that Bill appointed from a list of single-parent welfare moms who can only hear cases on Thursdays between 1:30 and 3:00 P.M. when there are not talk shows scheduled.

The ant loses the case.

The story ends as we see the grasshopper finishing up the last bits of the ant's food while the government house he's in, which just happens to be the ant's old house, crumbles around him since he doesn't know how to maintain it. The ant has disappeared in the snow. And on the TV, which the grasshopper bought by selling most of the ant's food, they are showing Bill Clinton standing before a wildly applauding group of Democrats announcing that a new era of "fairness" has dawned in America.
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 9:46 pm:   

I agree with Tom Toll. If not battered wives, how about the disadvantaged who could never afford, many years ago or NOW, to pay $26,000 for a car.
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Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 4:17 pm:   

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Tom Toll
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 4:11 pm:   

Mr. Berger, Lee Iococa told me many years ago that if society could figure out how to ethically and legally eliminate 90% of the attorney's in the USA, that society would change for the better overnight.

Leave this industry alone and find something legitimate to work on. Offer your free services to battered wives, etc. We don't need or want something for nothing. Nothing in life is free, it must be worked for.
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 3:23 pm:   

terry berger:
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Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 3:05 pm:   

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Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 2:41 pm:   

Terry Berger:
It must be inherited. In this world, one must fen for himself or herself. Your family should have learned how to shop around.
Think I remember you as well with another vendor.
I agree with the statement someone else made, get a life!
Terry Berger (Catadjlawyer)
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 1:34 pm:   

A few years back my daddy spent most of his hard earned savings and bought a new car for just over $26,000. He thought he had gotten a great deal because he trusted the salesman and the salesman told him he got a great deal! It wasn't long after that he got word that all the other dealerships were selling the exact car for about $2,000 less.
You don't think my daddy should now be happy about getting ripped off just because he thought he had gotten a great deal at the time. No way!
Tom Strickland (Tomotexas)
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 9:08 am:   

Well I have a post and wish all to listen!
Is This the same Terry Berger who was manager of the Worley Claims office in Arlington Texas. If it is then during June.July of 98,Hail and Wind, State Farm,etc, "he" as manager of that office owes "ME" for my overtime!!!! As I say, "if" and I believe it is him. He should try to sue Worley for his hours,etc first rather than coming on this board and infiltrating good adjusters.
If anyone wants to know anything else,All you have to do is email me, because I think we all know the drill Mr. Berger is doing.
Posted on Saturday, June 17, 2000 - 1:42 am:   

What a joke, or better yet a crying shame. This is the typical attitude of many plaintiffs attorneys in todays society - (1) convince some party that they are victims even if they do not know it (2) pit one party against another because things aren't "fair" (3) persuade otherwise ethical people that they are entitled to something that they did not earn.

Notwithstanding these factors regarding your own ethical character, we are already compensated for our time if we work additional hours and are more productive resulting in additional personal revenue. And why do we need you to tell us what we "should" be paid? Sounds like you think us dumb adjusters need someone smarter than we are to protect us. "Time and a half over forty hours" may generate large class action fees for plaintiffs attorneys - but it may come at the expense of our Freedom. This ain't no plantation and you ain't Lincoln.

Garbage like this causes legitimate issues of CAT adjusters to be obscured. By the way, if you ambulance chasin' plaintiffs attorneys (and not all are) were paid what you deserve, your fee would be about 10%.
Terry Berger (Catadjlawyer)
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 11:31 pm:   

I've been a cat adjuster for many years! It doesn't matter that we work off a schedule. If you work more than 40 hours a week (with a few exceptions) you need to be paid time and a half. Doesn't matter if you are paid by the hour, by the day, salaried, or paid off a fee schedule...with only a few exceptions we are entitled to be paid overtime! Contact me if you worked for a company for more than 40 hours per week and were not paid overtime.
older then dirt
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 11:18 pm:   

Did you hear the story of the amn in San Fran who was shopping in a curios shop in china town. He saw a jade rat for sale for 50$. The old man who was sellin it then said he could have the story of the rat for 5000$. the man said no and bought the jade rat and left. As he walked rats stared climbing through the street grates from the sewers and following him. He ran and ran while more and more rats chased him. When he came to the bay he through the rat in and all the rats follwoed and drowned. Soon he was back at the curio store. The old man smiled and said are you ready to buy the story. The man said no!! but do you have any jade lawyers??
Clint Bell
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 11:10 pm:   

Hey!! Terry Berger. Why not try the North American Federation of House Wives, there may be a few of them that don't get paid overtime, let alone Time & Half.
Tom Joyce (Tomj)
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 8:06 pm:   

Well you could just include every cat adjuster, every independant, many of not all staff adjusters, etc, etc, etc.
Do some research, besides not really an area where attorneys are loved and revered.
Dammit Dave there I go again
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 7:25 pm:   

catastrophe adjuster's are not paid by the hour - only per file, when the file is completed then we are paid. WE do not punch time clocks - that's why we are independant in the first place - paid on production - not by the clock! try somewhere else!
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 8:33 am:   

took the words right out of my mouth. I think this belongs under stories
Posted on Friday, June 16, 2000 - 8:13 am:   

I am in a room full of adjuster right now and we are laughing HEARTILY at this post from this attorney. This forum is NOT for solicitation.

Ambulance chasers on the internet? DUH
Russ doe
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 2:21 pm:   

Terry Berger (Catadjlawyer)
Posted on Thursday, June 15, 2000 - 1:38 pm:   

If any adjuster has worked for an adjusting company or an insurance company since 1995 for more than forty hours per week and was not paid time and a half for the overtime, please contact Attorney Terry Berger at

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