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Marc DuboisUser is Offline
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05/10/2008 9:54 AM  

Citizens of Florida is now insisting that their training be taken in a classroom setting rather than online. Now we are being bombarded by e mails from vendors wanting us to spend time and resources to get on the roster of a company that seems to have one of the worst fee schedules, retractable RFP's and other assorted administrative woes. I sure hope they hire that new Director of Cat Ops soon. Maybe someone who actually has run a major Cat or a "real" cat manager would be a good idea. No cats for two years and now let's make everyone who wants to work for us pay time and expenses just to work for our crappy fee. I know for one I won't be there. What about you folks?


Marc Dubois
Executive General Adjuster
M.G.D. Claim Services Inc.
"Your Commercial Claims Solution"
Tom TollUser is Offline
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05/10/2008 11:10 AM  

No sir, we will definately not work for Citizens and I feel strongly that many of my long time adjuster friends will not work for a beaucratic, authoritarian organzation like that. Low fees, no mileage, no this, no that, but we will fine you if you don't bend over. No, No, No. Is that clear enough Marc.


Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
R .D. HoodUser is Offline
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05/10/2008 5:05 PM  
Well stated Marc.

At the very least they need to hire someone from the "trenches" as opposed to a Wharton School MBA or another college grad who has never seen a loss, or dealt with the affected trauma the policy holders are now faced with, not to mention the death and destruction associated with storms of an "Andrew" or "Katrina"magnitude.

All carriers have issues, problems and unfortunately decide to reinvent the wheel instead of looking into the prior occurances and see what has worked and what has not.

They need someone who has "Been there & Done that" and lived to tell the story

"Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new... Albert Einstein"
Larry HardinUser is Offline
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05/10/2008 7:20 PM  
I checked with my supervisor here at the 'parlor, and, alas, I won't be able to go.

The celebration has already started

Larry D Hardin
peter burchUser is Offline
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05/10/2008 9:05 PM  
Count me out!

Still sliding down the razorblade of life.
Wesley St.JohnUser is Offline

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05/11/2008 10:24 AM  
Does anyone have a copy of the fee schedule? I didn't see it on the Citizen's website, though I probably missed it. I have also been flooded with email for the face to face training. I have not seen the fee schedule, but from what everyone else has written about it, I don't want to work for free, especially with fuel costs rising...every hour! Thanks
Les LammersUser is Offline

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05/11/2008 1:35 PM  

The large number of e-mails received about the Citizens training leads me to believe there is little interest being shown by adjusters. I am going to a seminar at the end of the month but it is one day and 2 hours from home. I would not travel any further or incur hotel expenses. Will I work for them? I don't know.

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05/16/2008 6:06 PM  
I would be interested in viewing the fee schedule before committing to anything with Citizens. I have heard quite alot about them. I also reviewed their website and did not find a copy of the schedule. The AYO Handbook (page 17) states there is a copy of the fee schedule in the handbook. Someone must have removed the schedule prior to posting the PDF.

Kim Stegall AAI ACA AICUser is Offline
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05/16/2008 11:30 PM  

Perhaps if we wait long enough to register, the vendors will be offering to pay us to attend!    

Marc DuboisUser is Offline
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05/17/2008 12:46 PM  
Gross Claim Amount(GCA) means the lesser of the policy limits or the agreed cost to repair or replace before application of depreciation, deductible, or other limiting clauses. (Not to exceed policy limits without written request and approval)
                                                    
GCA From
GCA To
Non- Catastrophe and Wind/Tropical Storm at Landfall
Catastrophe-Category 1,2 & 3 at Landfall
Catastrophe-Category 4 & 5 at Landfall
$0.01
$1,000.00
$225.00
$250.00
$300.00
$1,000.01
$2,500.00
$300.00
$350.00
$400.00
$2,500.01
$5,000.00
$400.00
$450.00
$500.00
$5,000.01
$7,500.00
$475.00
$525.00
$575.00
$7,500.01
$10,000.00
$550.00
$600.00
$650.00
$10,000.01
$15,000.00
$625.00
$675.00
$750.00
$15,000.01
$20,000.00
$725.00
$775.00
$825.00
$20,000.01
$25,000.00
$800.00
$850.00
$900.00
$25,000.01
$30,000.00
$875.00
$925.00
$1,000.00
$30,000.01
$35,000.00
$950.00
$1,000.00
$1,100.00
$35,000.01
$40,000.00
$1,150.00
$1,200.00
$1,300.00
$40,000.01
$50,000.00
$1,375.00
$1,425.00
$1,500.00
$50,000.01
$75,000.00
$1,500.00
$1,550.00
$1,750.00
$75,000.01
$100,000.00
$1,910.00
$1,975.00
3.0%
$100,000.01
$150,000.00
$2,750.00
$2,850.00
2.8%
$150,000.01
$200,000.00
$3,400.00
$3,500.00
2.6%
$200,000.01
$300,000.00
$4,000.00
$4,150.00
2.4%
$300,000.01
and up
1.35%
1.75%
2.2%

Marc Dubois
Executive General Adjuster
M.G.D. Claim Services Inc.
"Your Commercial Claims Solution"
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