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Michael BradburyUser is Offline

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04/28/2008 5:36 AM  

I've been lurking on these boards for some time but never really posted anything.  I'm looking now, and things around here are starting to feel like a ghost town.  Is that because the cane season hasn't started yet, and it'll get busy as the months move on?  Or is it like this because we have had several slow seasons the last few years and everybody went and got a job at Lowe's or something selling lumber?

I'm a young guy in this business with only a couple years of experience, and only as staff, not as an IA.  But looking around here makes me nervious of the future of our profession.


I do it because I want to provide a better life for my family than my parents could provide for me.
Lawrence WillinskyUser is Offline

Houston Texas
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04/28/2008 12:40 PM  

At the present time claims work seems to be hard to find, If it wasn't for my A / C work( Residental ), Inspections, and Substitute Teaching jobs there wouldn't be much going on these days. I wonder how many I A adjusters left with the lack of work these last three years. Perhaps something will happen in 2008, if not then its going to be all over for many here.


Lawrence Willinsky
Larry HardinUser is Offline
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04/28/2008 7:57 PM  
You might follow my lead and apply at the local massage parlor.

They always need a cleaning crew and valet parking personell

Larry D Hardin
Mike KunzeUser is Offline

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04/28/2008 9:01 PM  

When/if a cane hits the USA, this site will look like you turned on the lights in a truckstop cafe.   Watch where you step & bring the Raid.   

Tom TollUser is Offline
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04/29/2008 10:08 AM  

The everlasting problems of Catastrophe Adjusting. What do you do when there is no work. There is no answer to this question except within yourself. No one know your capabilities better than you. We find local claims work and pursue it to the inth degree. We manage financially, but it gets a little frightening at times. This work is seasonal. We have learned you save as much as possible and try to lay back as much funding as possble in a savings account.

Many of the new adjusters that started back in 04/05 have fallen to the wayside, unless they have found employment with a staff company. This is a very difficult profession to stay in. During good times, when there are many storms, no problems, but then suddenly there is no work and that leaves you confused and lonely. Be a good scout and be prepared. That includes financial preparedness for the future. Always stay in touch with friends within the industry and remember, never burn a bridge behind yourself.


Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.
Steve EbnerUser is Offline
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04/29/2008 12:12 PM  

Then there are those of us who have sold out and taken staff positions.  With each down cycle I saw in my decade as an independent there are fewer and fewer who come back.  I would be surprised if there are still 500 independent catadjusters left who predate 2004.

But I'm sure the short sighted carriers who think their two year "veteran" staff adjusters can handle the next catastrophe can find a few people hanging around the 7-11 parking lot drinking from a brown paper bag when the need for more warm bodies arises.  Then they will spend the next couple years complaining about the quality of independents.  Then the carrier execs can pat themselves on the back and tell themselves they were right all along about independents.


Steve Ebner

"With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962)
Mike BrowerUser is Offline

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04/29/2008 1:15 PM  

There is a shortage of catastrophe adjusters, but Citizens in Florida is claiming they have commitments from over 6500 for the upcoming season.  I remember in 2004 they claimed over 2000 commitments, but could field half of that.  Does anyone know where their are 6500 qualified catastrophe adjusters? 

 

MB

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04/29/2008 3:08 PM  
Of those 6500 qualified cat adjusters on the Citizen's roster, I bet at least 90%-95% of them are on at least 5-20 other carriers rosters also. With some things that have come about with them in the last couple years I hope anyone who works with them goes into it with both eyes wide open and know exactly what the score is going in. They may be an excellent organization to do claims for, but I've seen a little too much with their changes to scare me off. Their claim and service record on the prior hurricanes was terrible as per the results I saw, and I think the people who call the shots may have blamed the claim handlers themselves and are making them accountable. I can't say whether that blame is justified or not, but I'm sure a lot of the blame lies with the chiefs and not the indians.
Steve EbnerUser is Offline
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04/29/2008 4:52 PM  

I guarantee its the same couple hundred adjusters signed up over and over again by different companies.   And qualified for Citizen's work doesn't mean they have more than six months actual adjusting experience, if that.  Remember that someone who worked the hurricanes in 2004 and 2005 for three months each, and nothing since, are likely to claim they have been adjusters for four years.

As for me, last year I saw the Citizen's schedule and said to myself, "This reeks.  This is the worst fee schedule I may have ever seen."  But I started down the process road in the event I may have to accept that work.  I also had it in the back of my head that I would take almost any other work first.  After the tests and the drug test and the confidentiality statement and the ethics course, and when a new demand surfaced each week to be "Citizen's Certified", I just said, "No more." 

The liklihood is that Citizen's will only need people in the event of a hurricane.  Furthermore, they won't need that many unless there are multiple hurricanes.  In 2004 I got 75 calls from different vendors to come on down and work the hurricanes.  Then I stopped counting.  If I had not been gainfully employed already, I could have taken only one anyway.  If I have 75 options, do you think I will work for a Citizen's fee schedule?  Not on your sweet bippie.

Honestly, though, the fee schedule may have been too high for the folks they would have had to settle for if there had been any actual work last year.

Time to go round up the Applebee's parking lot guy.  Citizen's needs him bad.


Steve Ebner

"With great power comes great responsibility." (Stanley Lieber, Amazing Fantasy # 15 August 1962)
Roger SmithUser is Offline

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04/29/2008 5:41 PM  
In my prior life, I dealt with Citizens in 2003-2005. They scrubbed our list until we could provide 100 names not found on any of the other vendors list. Hopefully they are doing that now. I agree with M Brower that it is unlikely there are 6500 "adjusters" available. I would love to see the list of names.

Maybe this is why there is an opening for the Director of Catastrophe Operations.
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