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The 411 on Adjuster Fall Protection / Rope & Harness Training
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Catsvstrained
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02/16/2012 9:27 AM

    I have attached a link to some great information to consider before you commit to any Rope & Harness training program.

     

    http://catastrophecareerspecialties...gspot.com/

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    08/08/2012 12:43 PM
    Does anyone know where I can earn my rope and harness certification that is located up north. I live in Illinois and cannot find anywhere ourside of Texas and Georgia. Any advice would be a big help.
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    08/28/2012 1:06 AM

    I second that...there has to be somewhere up here in IL...


    I considered going to the rock jocks at REI and waving money at them to teach and equip me.


    Bueller? Bueller?

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    08/28/2012 8:46 AM
    Vertical Heartland Climbing School
    5050 Lick Creek Road
    Buncombe, IL 62912
    phone or fax at
    (618)995-1427
    email us at
    info@verticalheartland.com

    It is amazing what just a minor effort will turn up!
    "Prattling on and on about being an ass with experience doesn't make someone experienced. It just makes you an ass." Rod Buvens, Pilot grunt
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    10/21/2012 10:22 AM
    I know it may seem difficult to justify expenditure for tools, travel and training however, the cost of this should be weighed against the $$$ rate of return:

    Example # 1 - A Fat Max tape measurer cost 5-10X the cost of most tape measurers however its 12ft stand-out and abillity to be positioned during a 20+ knot wind will have it paying for itself time and again on every claim it is needed on.

    Example #2 - A reasonable Cat travel trailer can costs - 10k - 30K+ however can be parked within the theatre of your claims when others are spending 2 hrs windshield time just to get to their claims which means I am capable of 4 more hrs of production than they are each day / 120 hrs each month...... 120 X $50/hr = 60K!!!

    Roof Specific Rope Access Training / Rope & Harness tools and training is unquestionably the most valuable resource you could own for both getting and staying deployed so cut corners if you must and get trained by "Vertical Heartland" rock climbing school or get trained by a Roof Specific Rope Access training company and chances are that you will be reimbursed for the extra expenditure on the very first day of your next assignment.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXLAFkwgj8
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    02/09/2013 11:43 PM

    I considered the rock climbing schools up here in Illinois and then considered the roof specific training classes. I ended up choosing CCS (listed above) in Texas. The travel expense and the expense of learning rope and harness training from adjusters (as opposed to rock climbing techniques from rock climbers) was worth it.

    I took the class in the middle of January. Before I committed, I flipped through the mental rolodex of last year's claims and counted ten roofs I shouldn't have been on without fall protection. Within the first half hour of class I counted twenty more in my mind. That's thirty unsafe roofs on roughly 380 claims. If I do the same number this year (and I'm tracking for double at the moment) I'll have paid for the trip, training and equipment with the extra fees I bill two and a half times over in year one.

    I certainly got my money's worth. Further, I don't look at roofs the same any more when I roll up.

    Lastly, I needed equipment overnighted to a tornado site in Southern Illinois. I called them at 2p on Monday and they pulled my order and got it to UPS in time. I got my order the next day. CCS gets all my business now.

    If anybody wants to talk about it before signing up, ping me with your number.

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    02/26/2013 10:56 AM
    Just some added information on Rope & Harness training for everyone reading. Many adjusters on here have probably at one time or another tied knots, been in the boy scouts, been fishermen or a boater, Point is, at some time or another, we have worked with knots. I wanted a company that could teach me how to "properly" use the "correct" equipment for steep roof adjusting. I am 'part monkey" and wanted that extra piece of mind while I was that high up.

    I am a "freak" at scuba diving. Anyone that knows anything about scuba diving knows it can be extremely dangerous. I also love playing with sharks while I am down there filming. You "MUST" have the proper equipment and training. The same is what I was expecting for Rope & Harness. Proper gear and proper training.

    As an adjuster already doing two story 10 and 12 pitch roof, I wanted to be safer. I knew there had to be rope over house, anchored, and harness attached to proper ascenders, carabiners, etc. So I searched for a school. As a General Contractor I know OSHA, and ANSI, so I wanted the rope guru's. I went for SPRAT instructor, Society of Professional Rope Access Technicians. Before I arrived at training site, the instructor had been called out the night before to do a cave rescue in Tennessee. This is the type of training I wanted.

    I practiced for weeks, searching sites, and training on all kinds of different knots. I researched different types of equipment, the whys and how to on different ropes and webbing. I set my self-up that the instructor would teach us the equipment, and techniques for above the National Standards of proper rope and harness for climbing. This involved different anchoring techniques, proper knot tying, which ropes and why, harness styles etc.

    After researching the many knots, I was saying to myself there should be 3-4 knots that are basic for our need. I was correct. The basics are the same with all roofs and climbing. Safety first, proper equipment, correct anchoring, ascending and use of belay devices. Even tricks of the trade for rope deployment.

    So if you need training and certification east of the Mississippi, located outside Atlanta, Georgia and is taught by national cave rescuer and exceeds SPRAT, OSHA, and ANSI standards, then I recommend AITech (American International Technical Institute). The price is $300 and worth every penny.

    I am Advanced Open Water Certified Diver and would never skimp on safety, either by cheap equipment or training. Tim White the instructor also gives back to society, http://www.overtheedgeusa.com/defau...32.436.456

    Terry Freeland Adjuster/ Owner and Tim White make for a great instruction and learning experience at AITech Institute in Georgia for $300

    Mark
    Give them what they want, when they want it, and how they want it !
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    03/09/2013 9:54 AM
    I just went through Catastrophe Career Specialists in Montgomery Texas.

    This is a first class training experience. They have several years of adjusting experience (a wealth of knowledge), very detailed with a real concern for each student learning, using and maintaining safety. Their facility is incredible, they have multiple roofs to train on from a 4/12 to an about 24/12. All of their equipment in in near new condition, clean and very organized.

    I guess that you can tell I'm impressed with a great training experience in a beautiful location. Don't get stuck with a rope and harness "Training Class" when you can get ACRABAT Certified.

    You can reach them at :
    Catastrophe Career Specialists
    3114 WILLOWBEND RD
    MONTGOMERY, TX 77356
    (936) 537-6759
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    03/10/2013 1:40 PM
    Do we have a second L. Hardin, or is this Larry in stealth mode (which is not all that effective when you use your name as your screen name)?
    Steve Ebner CPCU AIC AMIM

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    okclarryd
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    03/10/2013 4:39 PM
    Sorry.................'snot me

    The REAL L Hardin
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